There's so much to address here, I had a hard time getting started. In the end, I did my usual thing and turned to the numbers to get rolling.
Like the Mavs, the Hornets and the Spurs were pretty similar teams - there must be something in the water in the Southwest Division. The Spurs play a slightly slower pace game, rebound overall at the same rate, assist at the same rate, turnover the ball slightly more, shoot slightly worse, take slightly more free throws, and score 1.22 points per shot, which is exactly how many points the Hornets get per shot. Freaky.
There is an illusion here, however. When looking at pure shooting percentages and the points per shot, it seems like the Spurs will match the Hornets on the offensive end, leaving the outcome of the series to the defensive end, where the Spurs, as always, excel.
It's not the case, however. The Spurs offense is worse than the Hornets this year, mostly due to two primary reasons: Their perimeter shooters are not very reliable, and their defensive discipline is limiting them on offense. What do I mean by the latter? Refusing to gamble at all for steals, the Spurs were the third worst team in the league at generating turnovers this season, forcing a measly 12.1 turnovers per contest. They were also the fourth worst offensive rebounding team in the league, snaring only 23.4% of available rebounds as they worried more about getting back on defense than crashing the offensive board.
Without the easy baskets generated by offensive rebounds and turnovers, the Spurs managed only the 13th best offensive efficiency this season, scoring 104.7 points per 100 posessions. Their offensive weakness has continued in the post-season as they actually declined on the offensive end against the Suns, scoring 103.6 points per 100 posessions despite playing a team that allowed a mediocre 105 per 100 all year. With the Hornets being clearly better defenders than Phoenix, that does not bode well for the Spurs ability to score. Just not much reason to worry about the Spurs offense.
The other end of the court, however, does need to be worried about. The Spurs produced the third best defensive efficiency in the league this season, allowing a measly 99.5 points per 100 posessions. They were also by far the best defensive rebounding team in the league, sucking in 77.1% of available defensive boards. That tight Spurs defense was fully on display against the Suns this post-season. Pheonix came into that series with the best offensive efficiency in the league in, scoring 111.2 points per 100 posessions. They came out of the series sporting a dismal playoff offensive efficiency mark of only 101.6. The Spurs simply crushed them.
That sets up an interesting clash between the Hornets and Spurs, because the Hornets just crushed the 7th best defense in the league, pouring 115 points per 100 posessions on a team that all season long only allowed 103. Something is going to give for one of these teams.
Some things to look for in the series:
1)Duncan should look impressive as usual.
This season, the Hornets pretty much let Timmy do his thing. He shot well in every game, averaged 22 and 10 with 3 assists and 2 blocks in 35 minutes. In all four games, Byron essentially stuck Tyson on Duncan and left him there, only throwing rare doubles at the Spurs big man. I'm expecting Byron to do that again and only switch up if it's becoming too painful to allow.
2) The Hornets will play tight perimeter defense.
Not doubling Timmy, the Hornets have been able to stay home on the other Spurs. As a result, in the regular season they shot a miserable 20% from three. I doubt we can count on that bad of shooting again, but it clearly had an effect.
3) The Spurs will whine like you won't believe.
The Spurs are whiney as it is - half of them complain as much as Tyson Chandler does - but the Hornets are the best team in the league at not fouling. During the regular season, the Spurs managed only 16 free throws per game against the Hornets, which is a dismal number. Expect the same, and expect at least a half-dozen Tim Duncan Disbelieving stares and a bunch of memories of Manu Ginobili having to scramble off the floor and get back on defense after having falling down after being "fouled" and not getting the call.
4) CP3 v Bruce "Lee" Bowen
Paul's gotten the better of Bowen twice this season. I won't go so far as to say Paul is dirty, but I will whole-heartedly support the idea that he can be one mean little bastard. At six feet, Paul understands if he doesn't protect himself, he's going to get smacked around - something Nash never figured out against Bowen and the Spurs. How has he gotten Bowen off of him? By smacking him in the face "unintentionally" in one game, and by refusing to lie down when Bruce was straddling him, and delivering some nice forearm blows in the process - getting Bruce to retaliate and be suspended. Paul just isn't going to take it from him.
5) We're facing another thin bench.
Part of the reason the Mavs fell apart was because the team was built to rely on 4 players for most of its offense - and one of those was Stackhouse.(hee hee) The Hornets, with Bonzi, Pargo and Julian Wright, have 8 legitimate players who can impact a game offensively and defensively. The Spurs? They mimic the Mavericks. We know Duncan, Ginobili, Parker and Finley will get their points. But take the second unit: Udoka? Oberto? Injured Brent Barry? The Remains of Robert Horry? Mini-mouse Stoudamire? Anyone scared? Anyone? Once again, we have an advantage with our second unit. Amazing, eh?
I'm exceedingly optimistic about this series. Should be exciting, though. Let me know in the comments what worries you the most about the coming battle.


37 thoughtful comments post your own
Jonathan
05/01/08 07:58 AM
I'll be honest: Popovich's pockmarks have me pretty frightened.
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atthehive
05/01/08 08:02 AM
The thing that worries me more than anything is the disparity in minutes played. Sure, San Antonio is old, and we're young, conditioned etc, but look at the numbers: Chris Paul has 3006 minutes (regular season) compared to Tony Parker's 2312. Peja has played 2711 to Manu's 2299. Duncan led them in minutes played during the season, but David West still has him beat by more than 200: 2870 to 2651. I really don't know how much fatigue will impact the series, but I sure would've loved to see Phoenix stretch the first round matchup to 7 games. All this said, I share your optimism, Ryan. We match up pretty well with the Spurs on both sides of the ball, and I say Hornets in 6!
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Ryan Schwan
05/01/08 08:15 AM
Nice, Jonathan. I'm not sure I worry that much about conditioning at this point, ticktock. The Hornets didn't look tired taking apart the Mavs, that's for sure.
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Ryan Schwan
05/01/08 08:15 AM
And why I thought you were ticktock, Rohan, I have no freaking idea.
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Ron Hitley
05/01/08 08:27 AM
I'm optimistic, too, which is a big change from round one. I figured we could beat the Mavs, but I never let myself get too hopeful for fear of disappointment. Ahead of this series, I'm expecting the Hornets to win, and everything I'm hearing from the players and coaches tells me they expect it too. @ atthehive: I was worried about fatigue, too, but not so much anymore. There's more time off between games in the Playoffs, and even in the game players can get more rest because of the long TV timeouts. I think the toughest thing with the Spurs is their consistency. They just keep coming at you. We were able to break the Mavs' will in the first two games, but that won't happen against San Antonio. It's going to be a much tougher fight.
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Ron Hitley
05/01/08 08:28 AM
Oh, and I posted more news links today. Check them out below this post on the homepage.
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Kid Dynamite
05/01/08 08:39 AM
Quick note from a Spurs fan here, First of all, this is a great blog and you guys do a great job. Second, I think its problematic to overly rely on the four games we played against each other this season as indicators. I mean, we did go 1-3 against the Suns during the regular season and we all know how that turned out. No team has a larger mental transition from the regular to post-season than the Spurs. I could comment on a lot of different things, but I'll be doing my own preview of the series over at 48minutesofhell.blogspot.com if anyone wants to check it out. Look for it this evening or tomorrow. Also stop by on May 6th, because I'm taking part in Chris Paul blog day. He may be our adversary, but the worthiest of adversaries nonetheless.
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Bob
05/01/08 08:58 AM
I like the breakdown of Paul vs Bowen. I read once that CP hit below the belt against someone in college, but he's not dirty in that it's blatant. He just get out of hand sometimes with his intensity. My only fear is the officiating. I know there were spots in the first round where they called some questionable calls against TC, so I'm fearful that this may repeat again. I cannot stand Hilton at the center. Duncan will absolutely demolish him.
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Kamo
05/01/08 09:11 AM
The most important thing that worries me, or well, to say it, man, is ginobili. I don't like it at all, but if he gets on fire, we'll have our difense to be really tight (maybe throwing there juju huh?), or we could get beat'n...otherwise, i'm quite confident with the team, we destroyed'em 2 times already by 20 or more points, at the hive and on the road, and we've played a better basketball in the playoffs than in regular season, so i'm sure we can beat them, really
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Mikey
05/01/08 09:11 AM
I'm like any otherold-school New Orleans sports fan, meaning I'mcautiously optomistic. I think the key to this series is going to be defending Tony Parker. As Tony Parker goes, so go the Spurs. Ask the Suns, they'll tell you. Big Timmy is going to get his, and Manu will be Manu, flailing wildly as if he were hit bya semi truck every time he's fouled. Another match up I'm looking forward to is how they defend Peja if he's hot. They are a good defensive team, but they only have one Bruce Bowen. I think we match up well, as displayed by some of the regular season games this year, but I don't put a whole lot of stock in those games. The Spurs rushed alot of 3-point shots, especially that last game in N.O. This is the playoffs, and they will move the ball around and get a good shot. They will be patient, methodical, relentless, and they will put the defensive clamps on you if you're not offensively disciplined. These are NOT the Mavericks we're dealing with anymore. These guys are not choke artists. Them's the Champs. The words of Rick Flair have never been more poignant, "To be the man, you gotta BEAT the man..... WOOOOOO!!"
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Juncti
05/01/08 09:13 AM
Biggest thing that worries me is that this is the Spurs. They have a way of making teams come unglued in the playoffs. Also, we thought the Mavs were floppers, we haven't seen anything yet. Sheep eyes Duncan and the flailing duo of Parker and Ginobili will be more than enough to get TC and West (potentially even Paul) in foul trouble. Plus TC has a few Techs already, we can't afford any more.
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Jared
05/01/08 09:22 AM
The officiating is a concern for me... STOP THE FLOP!!!
#12
justin
05/01/08 09:25 AM
One thing Hornet fans will learn is that you cannot compare the Regular Season Spurs with their counterpart, the Playoff Spurs. Ask the Suns how that worked? Since the Suns traded for Shaq they handled the Regular Season Spurs quite easily. The same was not true against the Playoff Spurs. There is some value in comparing regular season stats and matchups, but let's not take it too far. If the Hornets are not careful they will repeat what Golden State did last year -- beat an average Mavs team and get ousted in the second round.
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Cristian
05/01/08 10:02 AM
I have been a SPURS fan for all my life, This series is going to be extremley tough for the Spurs. The way cp3 runs his team and gets in the paint at will and his ability to get the bigs in foul trouble. Parker is also a beast, if our big 3 of manu, parker and duncan get at least 80 - 90 points a game, I like our chances in this series. Peja is very much like Manu in the way they are both streaky shooters they will be key in their respective teams success. Duncan will dominate the hornets all series long and they will not have an answer for him, also we do not have a answer for bonzi as he proved to us 3 years ago in the playoffs. But in the end its going to be the SPURS on top in 6 games. But the hornets will only get better and will be atop the west for many years to come.
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Mikey
05/01/08 12:19 PM
I don't sense any bad blood between these teams, just competitive respect. Then again, we haven't been the Spurs punching bag for the last decade like the Mavericks and Suns have been. I don't think any knowledgeable Hornets fan looks at the regular season to predict how the Spurs series will unfold. Most of us understand that with their age, the Spurs pretty much paced themselves in the regular season to make sure they were ready to play in April-June. By the way, even with them pacing themselves, they still finished with the same record. Thank you to all the Spurs fans chiming in on the site, and actually talking basketball and match-ups. Of course you guys pick the Spurs to win, but you have actual reasons other than "Chris Paul sucks". I bet if any one of us asked Christian why he believes the Spurs will win, he will say something like, "We know how to take things away from you defensively, and we'll get one on the road because of it." Thats a way better answer than "Chris Paul is a donut-eater". You guys can really teach Jazz fans a lesson in this department. Of course I'm a Hornets fan and I believe my team will win if we can make Tony Parker a pass-first point guard and make Manu take contested jump shots. Notice I didn't say anything about Duncan, well thats because he went to Wake Forest, and you can't stop those guys.
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Mikey
05/01/08 12:21 PM
Josh Howard says: Oh yea you can, feed 'em the chronic baby!!!!
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Glen Fried Rice
05/01/08 12:52 PM
80-90 points from Dumbcan, Giblowme, and Porker? Pretty unlikely. I can't wait for the game, because the Spurs have always been annoying. Time to smash them! No more flopping to the finals! Die Spurs die! Oh yeah, go Hornets.
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mW
05/01/08 02:51 PM
Anyone who's seen me comment knows I'm a vicious Hornets fan. But the Spurs are awesome, and I've developed a real appreciation for them over the years. Even though at one point, I was one of those who chimed in that they were "boring," I've come to realize that more accurately they are methodical, plodding, and consistent. Considering most teams ebb and flow, this is a really good thing. When other teams go hot and cold, they are steady: usually resulting in wins. I've thought more than once over the year that despite the Hornets' rep as a "running" team, that we're at our best when we most resembled the Spurs. That is, getting those sure thing down-low looks (TC/DX like Duncan), combined with sensational point play (CP like Parker), and punctuated by hot shooting (Peja/Mo like Ginobli et al). Because all year, we've built those steady leads where you're excited your team is doing well and all of a sudden you're up by 15. That's something the Spurs do. All that said, I too like this matchup. I too wonder if BB has lost a step, if Horry/Finley/Barry can be consistent over seven, and if the other backups can compete with ours. Geaux Hornets!
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milo
05/01/08 04:35 PM
The key to this series is David West. Bank on it. If DX is hot, Hornets win. Look at the two wins (29, 32 pts) this year and the two losses (16, 15 pts) , the key to all four was DX. CP3's assists in those games: W11, W17, L4, L7, it helps when DX can shoot.
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Spiro Vladimiroski
05/01/08 05:09 PM
hey guys... totally off topic i know... but... god bless stacey the hornet.
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Spiro Vladimiroski
05/01/08 05:09 PM
i mean honeybee
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saltandcarbon
05/01/08 09:19 PM
Nice Spiro. We have an awesome chance to make some real noise in the Playoffs and you go reminding us what it is REALLY all about. Hotties. On the random tanget bent, can anyone who is technologically gifted PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE photoshop Bonzi's mug onto some Donatello Ninja Turtle backgrounds, and then viral them to every email address in San Antonio. I think emailed Ninja Bonzi and Peja on a stick Serbsicles will really put the Spurs off their game...
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Jazzman
05/02/08 05:17 AM
Speaking of Bonzi he really impressed every time I saw him in a Hornets uniform, but honestly the biggest reason I like him is his name.
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LeoneL
05/02/08 05:24 AM
First time to comment here. First of all, I like this rule: "Cuss all you want, just don't piss us off or your comment will be deleted." hehehe.. Now, here's my thought on the subject. I think that the Spurs, especially in playoff mode is a team that's hard to beat. The Spurs' Big Three can take over a game on any given night. They have taken down the mighty Suns easily. But I am rooting for the Hornets (that's why I found this site) and I'm hoping that they could continue their march to greatness. I agree with Kamo about using Julian Wright to defend Manu. But i think it would be better if Juju plays Parker. Diaw made life miserable for Parker in Game 4 of the Suns-Spurs series and if Juju can limit Parker's contribution, then West, Paul, and Peja can easily match and surpass the production of both Timmy and Manu.
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Jazzman
05/02/08 05:53 AM
@mW I don't know how you could like the Spurs, they're dirty and they take all the fun out the game. Hack-a-Shaq made me want to throw up, and I got so pissed off at them I had to turn off the TV. I can't wait to see CP3 take on Bowen the tis series and I really like the Hornets chances to make it to the next round.
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LionZion
05/02/08 07:15 AM
Spurs guy here : I like the hornets. Only got to really watch you guys in the playoffs so far, but i love the bubbling nasty just under the surface killer instinct that seems to pervade the team highlighted by the aggressiveness of both CP and DW. I am worried! But I gotta believe in the Spurs. Haven't seen too many ppl mention this here, but you guys got a hidden trump card called Bonzi (!!) who unfortunately kills us during critical times in the game. So if Byron is really good, he will use Bonzi at the right times for a few mins and just break the Spurs game plan.
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Mark
05/02/08 07:30 AM
Jazzman, 'hack-a-Shaq' does indeed take some fun out of the game, but when properly executed, it yields surprisingly effective results. Credit former Mavs head-coach Don Nelson, but I do equate this to Spurs basketball. Boring yet methodical, but effective and within reason. Until the league implements a 'passive-aggressive intent to injure' rule (I shall informally dub it the 'Bruce-Bowen-Fundamental-Rule-of-Defensive-Dirt-for-Excellence', or <strong>BBFRDDF</strong>, for short), the incessant nature of Spurs basketball will always remain legitimate. Anyway, before complain I'm a hater of Bruce Bowen, let me say this: I hate Bruce Bowen's game. Defensive Player of the Year? Sure. But sneaky, conniving and dirty? Also yes. I live in Texas, so I've seen enough of him to make judgment.
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mark hammond
05/02/08 07:49 AM
Here is some interesting stats: The future (and maybe the now) studs of Paul, Chandler, and West are now 1-0 in playoff series. Duncan, Ginobili, and Parker are now 15-2 over the last 17 series, with the only two losses being almost freaky (.04 shot, and the 7th game Manu foul on Dirk). I understand that past performances do not always dictate the future, but this Spurs team will not get rattled. Also, they will not go quietly or lie down, you have to kill them. If the Spurs outside shooter regain any of their formal capablilty (Bowen, Ginobili, Barry, Horry, and Udoka) the Spurs are almost impossible to beat. Saying that, it should be a great series, with the Spurs prevailing in 6 (much closer than the end willlook)
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Brian
05/02/08 08:02 AM
Just wanted to let you know that me, along with everyone in Phx that i know, will be rooting for the Hornets to take down the Spurs. This season CP3 has become the best PG in the game by a mile and even though I was rooting against you guys in the 1st round.. it was only because I was scared as hell to play you guys in the 2nd round. Good luck from Phoenix and please beat those bastards.
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Ron Hitley
05/02/08 08:25 AM
Great to see all these first-time commenters. Thanks for sounding off, people.
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XXZ
05/02/08 11:44 AM
I think you vastly underestimate the Spurs bench. Nevermind that they have Manu Ginobili as a bench player, the rest of their guys (Oberto/Thomas, Udoka, Barry) all fill key functions for the team. A player like Udoka, for example, doesn't jump out at you until you see him play. Then you realize that he's the guy that makes the Spurs small ball work when they go to it cause he's a great rebounder and can play the undersized four. Similarly, you don't get a good appreciation for a guy like Brent Barry until you watch him take over PG duties in the playoffs. He's a good decision maker that is a good 3pt shooter that spaces the floor for the three main guys. And also, I wish we'd forever bury this "Bruce Bowen is getting old" talk until Bruce Bowen actually do show his age. Yeah, his minutes are down this year, but that's more a product of Ime Udoka and the rash of injuries the Spurs suffered than it is anything indicative of his play. Chances are, you'll see Bruce on Peja this series, and we'll get a really good appreciation of how much he's "aged" then. Good luck for the series, and I wish the Hornets played in the East.
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kalone
05/02/08 01:56 PM
it's maddening how people latch onto this "spurs are boring, spurs are dirty" crap. i get it people. and i would have agreed with the boring partthree years ago. god knows i watched plenty of games only a spurs fan could love. games where both teams shot 30% and the spurs never led until less than two minutes left in the fourth. but with parker and ginobili coming into their own, slashing and hitting impossible shots, if these two were on any other team, they'd be getting their due. as for dirty, bowen you can make a case. but how many times have the spurs been whistled for flagrant fouls? a handful? are the wizards a dirty team? how about the jazz? just because amare stoudamire is a dumbass that doesn't understand what every other player does -- that basketball is a two-sided, physical sport -- doesn't make it true. every time a spurs player is knocked on his ass, it's a flop or "good physical defense" by the other team. every time a spurs player touches another player while jumping for a rebound or going through a screen set by the other team, they're dirty. they're boring and responsible for the demise of the NBA, but the league is determined to get them to the finals. them's be some conflicting stereotypes. anyway, fuck it. no one's changing anyone's mind on this stuff. and for the record, i have mixed feelings on the hack-a-shaq. but it did put the diesel in his place (how you gonna carry a team when you're such a liability on defense AND offense), and even though he seems like a pretty ok guy, that's not all bad.
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mW
05/02/08 02:15 PM
The funny thing about labels, is you have to come to a common understanding on what those labels mean, or they don't men anything. Lots of people like to say Bowen is "dirty" but what does that mean? I would think it has one of two key meanings: (1) you cheat; or (2) you're malicious. And has someone else has said in some post about Bowen in another thread here, it's only cheating if you're caught. I think Bowen comes under (1). And anyone in this league who is a good defender probably does. People will bump push prod and shove if they're not called for it. Why not? Does that make them "dirty"? Maybe. If you believe in (1) above. But I don't think Bowen is malicious. Just tenacious. So call him what you will, but he's talented. He does what his team asks him to do. And the league continues to reward him for it. But don't think when my team is going up against him I won't boo the shit out of him and the refs any time he looks at one of our players wrong.
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Mark
05/02/08 05:43 PM
It's pretty easy to label Bruce Bowen when you search his name on youtube and find him harming (off the top of my head): Stevie Franchise, Amaré, Wally Sczerbiak (CLASSIC), Ray Ray, Nash, Anthony Parker, VC, Jamal Crawford, and I suppose CP. Intent is not taken into consideration for 'dirty', and Bruce Bowen <em>has </em>tendencies for dirty plays. For boring, it's a matter of opinion (as kalone conceded towards the end of his/her statement). I don't particularly enjoy slow, trudging, plodding Spurs games, but I don't really like slow, trudging, plodding Hornets, or Mavericks (my two teams) games either. By the way, Mark Hammond, that's one <strong>insane</strong> statistic.15-2? Colour me livid.
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sebastian
05/02/08 06:22 PM
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Cesar
05/03/08 01:19 PM
I'm a Spurs' follower because two of "our" embassadors play there and I have to admit you guys have a great weblog going!! . I suppose that with that said you figured out I'm from Argentina. I'll tell you it's too bad we'll face each other in 2nd round because our two teams should have met for the conference finals, but that's how it is. Thanks for showing respect towardsManu, Oberto and their teammates and for adopting our kind of game plan, Now it's time to prove if the Man is still the Man or if there is a new Man in town!!! WIth all due respect LET'S GO SPURS!!!!!!!!!! VAMOS SPURS!!
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Cristian
05/06/08 09:59 AM
Dam !!!! I have to give it you the hornets, I am SPURS fan all the way but everything we do seems to be the wrong move. I dont understand how in the 1st half of both games we are toe to toe with you guys then its like someone opend the floodgates. Parker needs to try and hol Paul because Bowen is getting abused, and Bowen needs to stick with Peja behind the arc. If we hold homecourt and Pop makes some good moves i think we can do it. You know I like Chris Paul but i am losing respect for him every time he cries for a foul and flops, he is going out of his way to try and get a foul called on Bowen. CP3 just play your game, your to talented, let your game do the talking. GO SPURS GO
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