I'm going to try and throw sentiment to the wind today, and address something I've seen suggested in a few quarters, and I'll admit, considered briefly myself when I was throwing out posts earlier this summer about what I'd like to see in the off-season.
Should the Hornets have traded Peja Stojakovic?
This particular question was raised most often during the last five games of the Spurs series, when Peja struggled to get free and provide his typical offense. The idea is that trading Peja this off-season, after a season where his value has been increased, is the best time to do it. I can understand the thinking: Peja is in his thirties, he has a massive contract, his value is probably at it's highest it has been in three years, so trade him and get what you can.
As you probably can tell, I disagree. I recognize Peja has his limitations, but I think there are some pretty compelling reasons to not ship him out. Here they are:
1) Peja's reputation has taken a beating. He's assumed to be an old, soft, overpaid and injury-prone player who can't defend and is only good at one thing. I'd quibble with the degree of many of these(except the overpaid one), but it's still the reputation he's gotten around the league. One fairly good year isn't really going to rehabilitate his value.
2) Peja has three years, 42.6 Million left on his contract, averaging 14.2 million a year. Big contracts can be a good thing for trades, but only in their final year or two. Where he is in this contract only leaves three types of realistic trades for the Hornets:
Our Flawed, Overpaid Veteran for Your Flawed Overpaid Veteran: For recent examples see Larry Hughes, Ben Wallace, Jermaine O'Neal, TJ Ford, Luke Ridnour, Stephen Jackson, Troy Murphy, Al Harrington, and Mike Dunleavy. These trades are almost always meaningless in the end - and are usually made by GMs who feel like they need to make a move, any move. Does anyone think the Hornets would really, honestly improve trading Peja Stojakovic for Raja Bell, Al Harrington, Mike Dunleavy, Wally Szczerbiak or someone similar? Maybe Jason Richardson? Would his increased athleticism but earnest but ineffective defense make the Hornets better? This is always a a guessing game.
Our Flawed, Overpaid Veteran to a Contender for Draft Picks and Young Prospects: This is for those bubble playoff/rebuilding teams who have a veteran they don't need and are willing to trade them to a contending team for their draft picks/young players with promise not getting off the bench. So the Hornets are the contending team in this situation. Is a rebuilding team going to ask for 31-year old Peja in return for their solid veteran? Right.
Salary Dump: Think Baron Davis for Speedy/Dale Davis. Marcus Camby for a potentially better 2nd round Pick. I'm confident Peja is more valuable than this. Thanks.
3) Peja's talents perfectly compliment the rest of the starting five. The player who would replace Peja would have to be able to knock down the wing three with regularity, as well as showcase a dozen ways of using pumpfakes and sidesteps to free himself if a defender does recover out to him. Peja drilled wing threes at a blistering 45% rate last year. With Morris drawing players to the corner and forcing them to stay home on him(42% from the corner last year), Peja holding defenders home at the wing(45% from there), West a threat from midrange on the left elbow extended or in the key(55%!! combined), and Tyson setting the high pick and sprinting hard to the front of the rim for alley-oops or to get position for offensive putbacks, this team runs a high pick and roll better than anyone in the league. Who do you cheat off of? (Oh wait, I'm supposed to be talking about Peja, not our glorious offense we'll get to start watching in only ONE MONTH!)
4) Peja is 31 this season. Players usually have their prime years from 27-31. So Peja is starting his decline years but I can see no reason not to expect 70-75 games a year from him this year and the next with near the same sort of production he produced last year. When he turns 33? He's in the last year of his contract. That means he becomes one of two things:
- A great trade chip to use in trades with teams looking to get below the salary cap the following year.
- A valuable expiring contract that can come off the Hornet's books. His contract expires the same summer that David West can opt out of a contract worth only 7.5 million dollars AND the summer Tyson Chandler's existing contract expires(if he doesn't opt out the year before). Would be nice to suddenly have an extra $15 million worth of salary come off your books just in time for that, wouldn't it? That's part of the genius of Jeff Bower that I need to write about. Soon.
In the end, I couldn't really think of a talent we'd be able to trade for that provides the same - or more - of what Peja provides despite his reputation: Skilled perimeter shooting, intelligent, fundamental man-to-man perimeter defense, one of the most deadly transition deep shots in the game, few mistakes, and several dozen highly entertaining heads on sticks that run around New Orleans Arena.



25 legendary comments post your own
Ron Hitley
09/26/08 12:23 PM
Two years from now, we might be wishing we traded Peja while we could, but I liked the signing when it happened and I continue to do so. If you want to win big, you have to take some risks and spend big. The Hornets were never really a team to do that until recently, and it seems to be paying off. (By the way, we've had problems with our comments recently. Apologies to anyone who had trouble. It should be fixed now, although we had to add a super-tough security question.)
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ticktock6
09/26/08 02:45 PM
The question is, who would they get who does what Peja does? And you have answered that question. I think it boils down to A) people are unrealistic, B) Peja made several game-changing clutch shots without which the Hornets' win total might have been lower, never mind knowing his role and playing it unselfishly and well, and C) the shots from media day today with the players running around with the Peja heads on a green screen? I don't know what it's about, but I can't wait to find out.
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saltandcarbon
09/26/08 05:06 PM
D) Amazing shirtless/beanied modelling shots to make the ladies swoon. I KNOW no ladies wanna see J-Rich without a shirt. Let alone Mike D Jnr...
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digression
09/26/08 08:29 PM
I still pefer to see peja playing in Hornets. he was the best three point shooter last season. Check out the stats. Nobody made more 3s and he has the best percentage in the 15 players who made 3pts the most, which is very uncommon. Normally prolific 3s means bad percentage, Reggie Miller has worse percentage than Steve Kerr, but it was not peja's case. Of course, his 2pts percentage was very bad, but i think if he get totally healthy, it could be better.Same thing about the inconsistance that he showed last season. And... for now he is the best clutch shooter in this team.
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Apple
09/26/08 11:36 PM
You said just what I was thinking Ryan...trade Peja for...who? I think a lot of his rep for being soft was due to his back problem which is seemingly repaired now. And his defense is tons better than I thought it would be and better than several others on the team. I believe Peja was an important part of the chemistry of the Hornets team last season. If everyone stays healthy I don't see why it can't work again this coming season. By the way...Chris Paul's first name is Christopher... a name that the Security question wouldn't accept.
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Ron Hitley
09/26/08 11:48 PM
Sorry, Diane. Our security guy is a bit of a hardass. He'll only accept "Chris" or "chris." @ saltandcarbon: I think if the Hornets did trade Peja, they'd lose about half their female fans. The other half would stay for Tyson. Right, ticktock?
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S
09/27/08 01:17 AM
well, i think it was a mistake not resigning Bonzi. A solid Player of the bench.
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Anonymous
09/27/08 02:15 AM
Peja is the perfect compliment to our big 3 of Chandler, west and Paul. He is the best shooter in the NBA and he draws automatically causes defenses to find him or glue a man on him thus causing a 4 on 4 gameplay. He spreads the floor so effectivly thus giving west room to operate down low and Paul to operate up top. Peja is also a threat to score 20 points every night we are probably the onky team in the NBA that can say our 4th best player was a past MVP candiadate and has the potential to off any night. Don't forget how clutch he is also, how many game winner/game tiers did he hit last year. Dallas, Pheonix, Milwaukee... Peja's defense is also very very underrated. he is not a good defender but he is slightly below average. He is not a horrible defender that everyone thinks. remember how effective he was against Lebron last year. yes it was a team effort, but peja was the actually guarding Lebron. Peja knows hot to use his length and size effectivley.
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ticktock6
09/27/08 04:56 AM
@ Ron: Sigh... TC...
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digression
09/27/08 10:05 AM
I want keep Peja... but.. maybe if you're desperate to cut salary... there's one possibility. Peja for Lama Odom whose contract will be over next summer. Lakers would love this idea despite of Peja's contract. But I don't think that hornets'd accept this deal
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Stefan
09/27/08 10:23 AM
I would never trade Peja unless he was badly hurt & in the last year of his contract. He perfectly complements our Big 3 like you guys mentioned before. And about his defense, its now below average like somebody mentioned earlier, for a 6-10 whit guy, he moves very well and uses his size effectively which allows him to back off the man he's guarding a little bit. He did a great job guarding LeBron, but I remember how well he did guarding T-Mac this season when he was put up to the job. He's a great addition to this team, just overpaid, but it was the only way to get him here.
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cp34mvp
09/27/08 01:49 PM
i think it wud b 1 of da worst things da hornets could do. Y fix whats not broken our whole offense is bout peja & mo-pete spreadin da d, west 2 nail those 18 footers & Chandler 2 run hard and of course cp3 2 find everybody. Unless u can find a beta contract wit a man dat can do what peja can do, den do it. Good luck. And we all seen what happenend in da playoffs it was peja-mania, wit al da peja masks, he is exciting 2 have out der
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Dave
09/27/08 02:16 PM
I don't think the club can get a good enough offer for a Peja trade to make sense. Best to play it out
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Mark
09/27/08 03:50 PM
Certainly I was one who said 'trade Peja' at the end of the season, but I did substitute his game for Money Mike, who essentially is just a tad better for the money (haha! See where I went?!). Honestly, point 3 plays the most important role, and without him, guarantee we wouldn't have been in that position we were last year (maybe even bumped down to the lower seeds, considering the competitiveness). His high contract is likely due to the poor play of our bees, and really needing a reason to come and play on an up-and-coming team, so while it's a high contract, it's somewhat to be expected. At our state, we shouldn't really trade him. But if we hesitate, his trade value is going down rather quickly. Catch-22, I suppose. BTW, what's with this security question thing?
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Ron Hitley
09/28/08 07:00 AM
The security question ensures that we don't get comments about viagra and Lindsay Lohan sex tapes. We were outsourcing every comment through a filtering service but that started slowing everything down recently.
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digression
09/28/08 05:29 PM
Player News (last updated: September 28, 2008)<strong> News:</strong> There's a chance James Posey could move ahead of Stojakovic in the Hornets' starting lineup, the New Orleans Times Picayune reports. <strong>Spin:</strong> When New Orleans signed Posey as a free agent in the offseason, we immediately thought of him replacing Morris Peterson, not Stojakovic. If Stojakovic moves to a bench-scoring role, playing for stretches without Chris Paul, his fantasy value takes a WHAT'S IT ALL ABOUT? Posey for Peja? I don't know what coach Scott's thinking... It means that you have only two legitime scoring options (CP3 and West) in starters...
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Ryan Schwan
09/28/08 06:03 PM
Feh, that doesn't mean anything. The actual line from the Times Picayune was that James Posey could move ahead of Peja Stojakovic or Morris Peterson in the starting lineup. Of course, Byron Scott also said Rasual Butler would have a chance to win the starting SG role, and that Sean Marks could get a chance to play good minutes this season. Byron does what all good coaches do. He tells his players that if they work for it, they get a chance. And honestly, he usually gives them a chance.
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Apple
09/28/08 06:53 PM
Hi, Ron... Well, at least your security question isn't as silly as typing in those wavy letters and numbers other sites have. Who's Diane? -tee hee-
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Matt - Storm Surge
09/29/08 12:33 AM
My only complaint about Peja, and this dates to back when I was a Kings fan and he was in Sac, is he often doesnt show up for the playoffs. You can make an argument that he's better covered in the post season, but its always looked to me like he choked in the post. I dont think for a minute that he should be traded for this since he gets you to the playoffs in the first place, but they really need to limit his minutes after regular season.
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Ron Hitley
09/29/08 01:30 AM
Sorry, Apple. I'll blame the insomnia.
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Anonymous
09/29/08 09:14 AM
No way peja goes to the bench, he is to important to remove out of the starting lineup. Brown,Posey,Butler and Peterson will all battle it out for starting SG.
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Juncti
09/30/08 07:34 AM
I think any Peja trade should have one important clause. The new person's head must look as good if not better.... ... On a stick Can't believe the new season is almost here. Even better, with CST and National games I think we are only in the dark maybe 3 or 4 games the whole year.
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kc
09/30/08 01:12 PM
another big three point hitter would be sweet to compliment peja, possibly michael redd or marco belinelli (a person everyone over looks)
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mW
09/30/08 03:00 PM
To everything Ryan said above, ditto. As usual, his analysis is spot-on. As the the issue of age we've mentioned? Peja's best attribute is his sharpshooting from behind the line.Food for thought. Reggie Miller, considered by many, one of the best long-range shooters of his era, retired just shy of 40. Steve Kerr, who retired as the most accurate 3-point shooter ever, retired at almost 38.I'm not worried about Peja being 31.
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Mark
09/30/08 07:20 PM
I suppose the only problem I would have on mW's point is that SOMEHOW the Spurs were able to exploit Predrag's lack of mobility and effectively hinder our offense from it's usual bulldozing effect. Okay, so Bruce Bowen plays dirty; that's besides the point. With simple man coverage, Predrag has shown some struggles. But while that handicaps our offense, I'm actually more concerned about the rest of the group... why couldn't we get off the ground for some of that series? Also, mW, I don't want to throw out inaccuracies, so I won't put out hard facts, but Predrag hasn't exactly been the healthiest player on our squad, which puts a little more emphasis on his age as opposed to a player like Reggie. Oh, and uh, does anybody want some Viagra or Lindsey Lohan sextapes? Just saying...
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