The first half of that game made me absolutely furious. Spitting, hopping mad furious. However, I make it a point not to talk about officiating, so let's get on to the players.
- We lost by 7 in a game we shot 5-17 from three - and a lot of those shots were not contested. Seriously, the Hornet's starting Small Forward and Shooting guard combine for 10 points on 3-18 shooting, 2-10 from deep, and only two free throws - yet the Hornets only lost by 7.
- I'd love to say that our comeback in the fourth quarter was entirely due to grit, but you could tell the Lakers relaxed. By the end of the third, they were coasting. Paul, however, never coasted.
- In fact, Paul was relentless. He started out the game in crazy attack mode, going hard to the hoop, penetrating at will and finding the open (non)shooters. He closed out the game on a tear, finishing 13-19 with 30 points, 7 rebounds, 13 assists, 2 steals, and 2 turnovers. The man was also unstoppable in the fourth.
- Fisher had one of his nights. The Lakers force doubles - and we doubled - and Fisher made us pay. Fisher is a gamer.
- Tonight West's jumper was not on target at all. When he got inside against the Lakers, he did some damage, but none of his mid-range shots were on target, particularly one in the third that didn't even draw rim. West certainly had his moments, but he also had six turnovers - three of which were just bad, lazy passes.
- I'm sure the Lakers fans are going to wet themselves over the contested jackass three Kobe hit, but he was falling apart in that quarter up until then, going 1-4 with 2 turnovers and 3 fouls.
- The second unit's effort to corral rebounds was beyond awful. Three times the ball took a long bounce and was going out of bounds in the corner. Not ONE of our guys gave chase, a Laker did, and it was their ball. That's pathetic. At least escort it out of bounds guys!
- At least the starters rebounded well. The Hornets actually won the rebound battle by 3. Tyson worked hard on the inside against Gasol and Bynum and stood tall in the end with four offensive rebounds and 10 total despite having been limited by early foul trouble. West also fought off Gasol effectively, grabbing 11 defensive rebounds and 1 offensive.
- Other than the Phantom, only Butler played well on the second unit, and he only got 8 minutes. The Phantom caught fire in the third from three, and his defense on Bryant was absolutely stellar.
- Armstrong had another 2 turnovers in 15 minutes as he continues his quest to be the most turnover-prone player ever to play the game.
- I may have found out Phil Jackson's mystical power. Somehow, opponents of the Lakers are only shooting 67% from the free throw line this season. Tonight? Hornets well below their average at 65%, Lakers well above it with 82%. Could the pace of Lakers games impact this maybe? I don't know. Just figured I'd bring it up.
- Chris Paul's streak of 20 and 10 games to start a season is alive - as is his steal streak. The guy is a legend.
- Radmanovic was his usual crappy self this game. He and Peja can get together afterwards, have a formerly Yugoslavian beer, and talk about all those wide open shots they bricked. Radmanovic will win on crappy shooting percentage, but Peja's got him on volume of missed shots.
- Mike James is awesome - if the word awesome means "useless piece of crap". His line of 1-3 shooting 1 rebound 1 turnover, 1 foul, and 2 points does not do justice to how bad he was. His competition Devin Brown managed to get 10 minutes of playing time and his 0-2 shooting with one steal pretty much does justice to how bad he was.


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Niall Doherty
11/12/08 11:43 PM
I have lots of thoughts on this game. All of them are depressing. I might feel like sharing tomorrow.
One thing about the free throws though: Phil Jackson twice called a timeout to split a pair of Hornet free throws. He did it once to Peja and once to Tyson. Both times we made the second shot. Just thought that was interesting.
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<3 Becky Hammon
11/13/08 12:02 AM
I think it's given we're all pretty disgusted by the performance of our bees tonight (the revival of the Stern Button [(c) Hype] is debatable), and it seems our games, win or lose, have been more disappointing than they reassuring thus far. If our team exhibits such inconsistencies (word of the season for me), we will be highly disappointed by the end of the season. A loss is not bad, an effortless and surrendering mentality is.
It may be beating a dead horse, but I'd like to hear Niall's abridged comments (think of the children!). I always like having piss-poor game stats for comparisons' sake to see how our team will fare in the long run.
Mike James watch Day 7. Exhibited low basketball IQ. Most everybody else was really awful, to be fair. -2.
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Roc217
11/13/08 12:12 AM
I'm not sure what to make of the Hornets so far. On one hand its early and don't want to worry but on the other you dig yourself a whole in the west you'll find it hard to climb to the top. They aren't playing In-sync at all. DWest......man have you lost your game? Airball a wide open 15 footer? That was money last year. Never has his lack of offensive moves been more evident than this year. Losing the ball whenever he tries to dribble. He's the second option on this team he can't be this inconsistent for them to stay in competition with Rockets, Lakers, Jazz. They shouldn't be getting blown out like that period. I don't care if its the Lakers. If Dallas can keep a game of it, they should be able too as well.
CP i think its time to be more selfish earlier in the game, not just in the 4th. He took over in the fourth when Lakers relaxed (yes that comeback had a lot to do with Lakers relaxing). THey smothered CP whenever he got into the paint and Bynum recovered whatever shot got through their defense.
Maybe this loss will piss them off. I keep holding out hope that each loss a deep hatred for losing will fester so that they will play with some fire.
They are so frustrating right now. With Portland and houston both winning tonight, losing to them is just not an option right now.
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louisianagyrl337
11/13/08 12:29 AM
I don't really know what to say. I stopped watching the game midway through the 3rd. This game had kind of the same feel of the game when we were down 30 @LA last season. I figured we'd get in a hole early, the Lakers would start to relax, we'd make it close, never lead and eventually lose the game and that's exactly what happened. At this point, I really don't know what to say. Seems like other than Posey and Rasual, we have the same bench problems from last year. JuJu hasn't gotten a lot of PT and is just getting into game shape so he gets a pass for now. I'm curious what Coach Scott is gonna do because right now, neither Mike James or Devin Brown is the answer at backup PG. One of them needs to be traded if they don't progress and I already have a list of ppl we could possibly trade either of them for. Ugh it's just frustrating. I think I'll stop myself here
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Roc217
11/13/08 12:49 AM
Refs are killin me. One call that pissed me off was when CP got BOGUS charge because Fisher couldn't keep up with him and flopped to the floor. THat should've been and 1 but instead a off foul. Even LA announcers said that was wrong call. Refs are biased. I totally believe it. How the hell do you change the way you call the game from one half to another? First they grabbed pulled pushed sandwiched CP and got away with it, but at the end he was getting touch fouls in his favor? BS I can't stand the way these refs control this game.
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Niall Doherty
11/13/08 07:11 AM
My take on the game last night: The Lakers are running a much more sophisticated offense than we are. They move the ball, cut and space real well. They rarely waste a dribble, every movement has a purpose. Meanwhile, we have Chris Paul probing the defense hoping to get someone out of position and exploit the mistake. Or, we throw it into West and let him try and back down his man or beat him off the dribble, except against the Lakers he's going 1-on-3 because their help D is so good. So basically, the Lakers are tough to stop because they run an efficient, balanced offense. Kobe doesn't need to score 30 points for them to win. They get other guys layups and wide open jumpers. But our offense relies on our stars having big games. If West is off or crowded, we're screwed. CP does his thing regardless, but if we're not hitting the deep looks that he creates, we're screwed.
Of course there's more to it than that, with depth being a big factor, too, but I think it mostly comes down to the Lakers playing a more sophisticated brand of basketball. Phil Jackson has put together a well-oiled machine. And the most depressing thing is, I'm not sure what we can do to get to that level and compete with them this season. Unless something drastic happens, there's no way I can see us beating them in a 7-game series.
It's mid-November and I'm pretty sure I already know how the season will end.
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Josh
11/13/08 08:07 AM
So...normally I go over to Ryan's to watch the games...even though I spend the money to get League Pass. We normally start watching about an hour or two after the game starts (gotta love DVR/TIVO) since we are impatient people and hate sitting through the commercials (I mean really...there are Xbox games to play and Blogs to post on, why waste the time). I was supposed to go over there at 10:15 but I knew this would be an interesting game and couldn't resist checking in to see the score every now and then. Every time I switched to the game I saw us being called for a stupid foul, saw the double technical between Posey and Gasol and finally decided not to go over to Ryan's. Being down 20+ every time I checked on our Hornets, I knew Ryan would be a grumpy bastard and didn't want to deal w/ him. Reread his first paragraph and you'll completely understand. Sometimes he throws things at me.
Anyway. I was quite pleased to see that we were finally able to put a dent in things and finish only down 7.
And I wish Mike James would go away...
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darkprince89
11/13/08 09:18 AM
no sense of purpose, passion, or pride whatsoever tonight... hopefully, this will be all behind us and the hornets will play like a real team soon... very soon...
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stormsurge
11/13/08 09:27 AM
I was busy last night so neither watched the game or followed it. When I saw the score, it didnt look too bad and I was bummed but not disheartened. After reading all this, Im now disheartened.
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Mikey
11/13/08 09:43 AM
The schedule gods are unkind to us this week, but actually the schedule lets up a little bit after this week with a back to back with the Thunder, one at home with the Kings and the Clips on the road. The only REAL tough game is at Portland at the end of the month. I recall us getting out of the gate slowly at home last year too. I believe we went 3-4 at home in Oct/Nov '07 with inexplicable losses to both the Timberwolves and Pacers. As I recall, we also fought hard against a pretty good Magic team in a loss, and got a lesson taught to us by the Spurs. The game last night reminded me of that Spurs game last year. Can't have lazy inbounds passes, gotta hustle to get those long rebounds, and you have to get more than 6 offensive rebounds when you miss over 30 shots in a half.
I think its reasonable to assume that the Hornets will be sitting at 10-6 or 11-5 through the end of November, which is about where we were last year.
Everyone needs to take a step back, take a deep breath, realize it's November and not March, and also admit to ourselves that our expectations are somewhat inflated due to last season's success, all the media hype, and the flawless preseason (which really meant nothing). We knew certain bench positions would be a weak point (specifically in the front court and PG) and it's bitten us in the ass early on. Fortunately, we have time to figure all that stuff out.
That being said, the boys need to bring that passion, purpose, and pride for more than one quarter a game. The Bugs have yet to put a complete game together.
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DowJones
11/13/08 01:11 PM
hey ryan, at least give credit where credit is due. yes both peja and Radmanovic bricked shots but at least peja wasn't caught on the defensive end with his proverbial pants around his legs guarding no one!!
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LSUhornet17
11/13/08 06:08 PM
Anybody else find it strange that Rasual looked great (well great compared to how everybody else looked) off the bench in the first half, and then in the second half Scott gives Devin Brown the minutes that could've went to Sual? . So far Brown's been invisible when he's been on the court and Rasual has looked solid. I don't get it.
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mW
11/13/08 06:34 PM
I did my fair share of cursing at the refs last night. Did I think the Hornets got hosed? Yes. Did I think it cost them the game? No way. As of last night, the Lakers are a superior team. Period.
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StefanC
11/13/08 10:15 PM
@LSUhornet1
I think B Scott is just really aware like the rest of us that Mike James is a worthless piece of space on our team. I just think he's trying to find time to get Devin Brown in some sort of groove in the beginning of the season. With the bad starts to Dallas, SA, and the Rockets, I guess we can afford a few losses luckily due to that.
In the long run, we have got to get this bench thing figured out. Here is what I think we need to do to have a successful season:
-Our bench is the biggest problem. I don't really think they suck that bad, but they need to start working together efficiently. We have some talented players, who just aren't working together well because we need a good backup PG. We cannot rely on MJ and I don't think we'll get a trade going. So it's up to our man Devin Brown. Sadly.
-Our offense can't rely so heavily on Chris Paul. When he's not in the game, even our starters suck on offense. They are capable but I just think they've gotten to reliant on CP from last year.
-Key number 3: B Scott. He's got to make these changes work, and fast!
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