The Clippers visit Tonight
I'm not going to do a formal Game Preview today because I wanted to post a couple other things instead. Still, here's tonight's game in a nutshell: The Clippers are 8-27 and have lost nine in a row. They are dead last in offensive efficiency, and 17th in defensive efficiency. Baron Davis is "injured" as always when the going gets rough, while scoring big men Zach Randolph and Kaman are struggling with leg problems. That leaves rookie Eric Gordon to shoulder all the scoring load. Unsurprisingly, it hasn't gone well. We should romp.
On to other things:
Darius Miles
The Portland Trail Blazers sent out an email to the league teams today warning them that should they sign Darius Miles now that he's been waved by the Grizzlies, they will sue them. Miles had gone through a Medical Retirement in Portland that allowed them to wipe his stupidly massive contract off their books. However, if he manages to play just two more games in the NBA, his contract will go back on their books, wiping out about 9 million worth of Salary Cap space. I understand why Portland sent out the Email - and for Portland fans it must be great to see how aggressive their front office is being in trying to improve the team - but you've got to believe it sets them up to get sued by Darius Miles. Some team somewhere is probably willing to pay for his services. The Trailblazers, by dropping these threats, are interfering with his ability to be gainfully employed. That just reeks of lawsuit possibilities.
Of course, with Paul Allen owning the team, the Trailblazers never lack for money. I'm not sure they'll care much about having to fend off a lawsuit - or pay any penalties resulting.
All-Star Voting
I don't care much about the All-star game itself. In fact, last year was the first time I've actually watched the entire thing, and that, of course, had to do with it being in New Orleans, and our two representatives in the game. That said, it is always fun to talk about who should be on the team. I mean, who doesn't like giggling about the fact that Deron Williams will likely not make the All-Star squad this year either?
I do think, however, that the fan voting has become somewhat of an issue. The Chinese have their two stars in the League, and in case you hadn't heard, there's more than a billion chinese running around. That, of course, means that Yao and Yi each have millions of votes - and their teammates are also reaping the rewards. Ron Artest and his 37% shooting is 4th among West Forwards. Shane Battier, who has been injured most of the season, is in the top 10. Rafer Alston has more votes than Brandon Roy. Rafer freaking Alston.
Oh, and then there is the real reason I'm worked up about the voting process: Paul is being beaten out as an All-Star starter by Tracy McGrady of Houston. Two-three years ago, I'm fine with that. This year, Tracy isn't even trying. In fact, he gives every indication he'd rather be anywhere else than on the basketball court. So I ask the Chinese, Please, please stop voting for Tracy McGrady for humanitarian reasons. He doesn't even want to play the regular season games. Don't make him play in the All-Star one as well.
Trade Speculation
Lastly, I'm going to participate in a completely stupid, yet completely fun past-time: Trade Speculation!
In my opinion, we need two things - a player who can shoot from deep and drive and score - and a player to back up Tyson and David West on the front line. Our realistic trade assets are the following players:
- Morris Peterson(5.7Mil per year, 3 years contract length)
- Rasual Butler(3.6mil, 2 years)
- Hilton Armstrong(2mil, 2 years)
- Julian Wright(1.8mil, 3 years)
Yes, I'm including Julian. If we aren't playing him or going to play him, use him as bait. Oh, and no, I'm not including Peja. I'm not convinced we should trade him, and I'm not convinced we'd get anything back worth playing if we did.
The teams I think the Hornets can target most easily for trades are those who are clearly out of the playoff hunt at this point. Those teams will probably be willing to give up veterans for a combination of veterans that cost less, youngsters, and/or draft picks. First are some serious proposals. The last one is an interesting one that would never happen, but I included it just for kicks:
Hornets Give: Morris Peterson, Rasual Butler, Julian Wright and a Draft Pick
Hornets Receive: Golden State's Corey Maggette(8.6Mil, 5 years) and Brandan Wright(2.4Mil, 3 years)
Hornet's Starters: Paul/Maggette/Stojakovic/West/Chandler
Hornet's Backups: Daniels/Brown/Posey/(B)Wright/Armstrong
Pros: The Hornets pick up a slashing scorer to compliment Peja on the wing, and a young big with more potential than Hilton. The Warriors cut a lot of longterm salary and make Don Nelson very happy by bringing in even more lanky swingmen, including ultra-lanky Julian Wright.
Cons: Corey Maggette is injured and has a history of missing 15 games a season, Maggette's contracts goes for five years and takes him until he is 34. Brandan Wright has been promising in limited minutes, but is no guarantee to develop.
Hornets Give: Morris Peterson, Hilton Armstrong, 1st round pick
Hornets Receive: The Clipper's Marcus Camby (8Mil, 2 years)
Hornet's Starters: Paul/Butler/Stojakovic/West/Chandler
Hornet's Backups: Daniels/Brown/(J)Wright/Posey/Camby
Pros: The Hornets pick up a backup big man who can contribute, upgrading their frontcourt rotation significantly. The Clippers get a solid Wing player - and they really have none behind Eric Gordon and Al Thornton. They also clear up the logjam of Randolph, Camby and Kaman on the front line. Plus they get a pick - which is something they'll need to stop being a crappy team. Maybe they can draft a point guard.
Cons: The Clippers may be able to get a better/younger wing player than Peterson for Camby.
Hornets Give: Morris Peterson, Hilton Armstrong, 1st round pick
Hornets Receive: Indiana's Radoslav Nesterovic(8.4mil, 1 year)
Hornet's Starters: Paul/Butler/Stojakovic/West/Chandler
Hornet's Backups: Daniels/Brown/(J)Wright/Posey/Nesterovic
Pros: Nesterovic is a good passer, a solid banger, a decent shooter, and a decent rebounder. He also rarely makes mistakes. His contract expires after this season, and can be most likely signed at half the price next year. Indiana gets a back up shooting guard, and they don't have anyone reliable right now behind Daniels and Granger. They also get to clear minutes for Roy Hibbert, giving them a decent Foster/Hibbert/Murphy/Armstrong front line. The Pacers also get a pick in compensation for picking up a little extra salary.
Cons: The Pacers probably want to cut salary pretty bad, and like to try to stick Jamaal Tinsley into every trade. They also have Mike Dunleavy coming back from injury, which will give them a decent three man rotation at the wings in Daniels, Dunleavy and Granger.
Hornets Give: Rasual Butler, Hilton Armstrong, 2nd round pick
Hornets Get: Oklahoma City's Nick Collison(6.2mil, 3 years)
Hornet's Starters: Paul/Peterson/Stojakovic/West/Chandler
Hornet's Backups: Daniels/Brown/(J)Wright/Posey/Collison
Pros: The Hornets clear out some of the logjam at small forward and get a dependable big man. The Thunder get someone who can actually play at both wing positions behind Durant and Green, allowing them to dump Damien Wilkins, still have a decent backup big man, cut salary, and gain a pick.
Cons: The 2nd round pick is probably not enough for the Thunder to bite, particularly since the cut in salary doesn't occur for two years. Honestly, I'd probably make the offer then up it to a 1st rounder.
Note: I prefer Nick over Chris Wilcox because he's more reliable and he'd be under contract for three years - while Wilcox could walk over the summer.
I tried hard to come up with a trade for Mike Miller of Minnesota, but nothing I came up with made any sense. Especially for Minnesota.
I also considered a straight up swap of Julian Wright for Brandan Wright. Brandan is bigger and more of a power forward, and if neither teams are playing those guys, why not give Nelson another lanky forward to love and get us another big to help out? Something to think about.
Lastly, here is my "interesting" trade. I can see how both sides could talk themselves into this being a great idea. I'm not sure who would be right, though.
Hornets Give: Tyson Chandler(11Mil, 3 years), Peja Stojakovic(13Mil, 3 years), 1st round Pick
Hornets Receive: Phoenix's Amare Stoudemire(15Mil, 3 years), Leandro Barbosa(6mil, 4 years), Jared Dudley(1.2Mil, 2 years)
Hornet's Starters: Paul/Butler/Posey/West/Stoudemire
Hornet's Backups: Daniels/Barbosa/J. Wright/Dudley/Armstrong
Pros: For the Hornets: The Hornets ditch Peja's contract and pick up an explosive scoring big man, giving the Hornets three incredible young scorers. They also pick up a skilled scorer to lead the second unit. For the Suns: The Suns have been trying to ditch Barbosa's contract, and Amare has already said he's probably leaving in two years, predicting their collapse due to age. Phoenix gets to continue their progression to a standard offense and surround Shaq in the post with Richardson and Peja, two deadly shooters for Shaq and Nash to feed on the wings. Tyson and Shaq will dominate the boards, and Tyson can take the fast-moving big men defensively. Peja's age and contract expires the same year as Richardson's, which will both be the year after Shaq and Nash, giving Phoenix the ability to completely clear out salary and old players over two years. Chandler's contract fits in there as well.
Cons: The Hornet's defense and rebounding will suffer. Phoenix may have some problems integrating Chandler with Shaq offensively. The Hornet's wing positions won't space the floor as well as they had, and the team may actually be weaker - in the short term.
Enjoy the game tonight.


19 life-affirming comments post your own
SavageHenry
01/09/09 12:24 PM
Nice job with the trade possibilities. I always appreciate these, because I'm far too lazy to figure out potential scenarios on my own.
I like the Collison trade the most for us. The Maggette/Wright deal is intriguing, but with Byron's tendency to not play youngsters that don't fully grasp his system, I have a feeling B. Wright would end up filling J. Wright's role here instead of Hilton's.
I also think that--although intriguing--the Phoenix deal would be detrimental to the Hornets. I'm sticking with Tyson and Peja for now. I think both will see an increase in production through the rest of the season (be kinda hard to do worse than they presently are), and we all now the importance of defense, rebounding and outside shooting in the playoffs.
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Juff
01/09/09 12:26 PM
i lkike the Camby-trade
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Niall Doherty
01/09/09 12:40 PM
Ryan, Fletcher Mackel has nothing on you. Very interesting trade possibilities. I like the ones for Camby and Collison most. I wouldn't be surprised to see Jeff Bower pull the trigger before the deadline, so he may well be looking at possibilities like these.
Regarding Miles, I see no way that we sign him so I'm not even going to waste time thinking about the Blazers and their threatening e-mails.
Regarding the All-Star voting, it sucks massively but at the end of the day it has no affect on the Hornets W/L record, and I'm pretty sure that's the way CP will be looking at it.
As for the Clippers, I want us to do to them what Utah did to us. I'm in the mood for a dominant Hornets performance.
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mW
01/09/09 01:32 PM
I'm already on the record as saying, but I'll say it again, I'm not in favor of any major changes. At best a Mo/Rasual swap for another player with 1 year left on his contract. I'd even do Tyson with how Hilton's been playing, but only for salary cap reasons (we're currently over the luxury tax once CP's new contract kicks in next year).
I think the team as assembled has the potential to win it all, and I believe the victory over the Lakers and Spurs this year marks that potential best. Nor do I see Jeff Bower pulling the trigger on any big move, just maybe a little tweaking.
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Mark
01/09/09 02:08 PM
I think your acknowledging Money Mike Miller was strictly for me, heehee. I doubt it would ever happen either, but as a wise band once sung: "don't stop believing"
A healthy Marcus Camby would definitely be a starter for our squad. Tyson's been inconsistent at best, and Camby has always gotten some pretty great numbers, which would be emphasized by our recent lack of effort in the post.
It's fun to speculate, but like mW says, nothing major's likely to happen. Unless, of course, we get some under-the-table trades in our favor, like the Lakers and Celtics last year.
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Juncti
01/09/09 02:24 PM
Two things.
1. Limit All-Star voting to North America. I understand they want an international presence. But if you have no team, you don't get a vote. Sorry.
They block google yet can sway and ruin the All-Star lineup. That's just insane.
2. Take Armstrong out of trade potential. It really looks like he's starting to click and I think the upside there is too much to ignore. He keeps scoring consistently and finds a way to limit the foul trouble, he could give Chandler a run for the starting slot. Chandler seems unable to bring any scoring presence outside of the immediate 2 or 3 feet around the rim.
Armstrong has shown the ability to shoot from a wider range, and post up and attack offensively.
Last, I'd hate to see us absorb all his "learning" time, and another team get all his "emerging" time.
And one more thing, I'm waiting for a pun from Gil when Armstrong gets a few blocks in a game. No vacancies at the Hilton! :) There's so much potential with his name. I'm surprised they didn't call him the StrongArm when he defended CP3 a few games back.
Ok, the last one was bad. lol
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ticktock6
01/09/09 02:30 PM
"Bad" is what Gil does best. After this long road trip, it will be relaxing to be back in the pun-free atmosphere of NOLA arena.
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Mikey
01/09/09 02:46 PM
@mW: I admire your faith, man. Our 2nd unit, other than Posey, is bereft of rebounding savvy and skill. The Utah game exposed that, in a huge and horrifying way. However, I will acknowledge that the 2nd unit plays a considerably lesser role come playoff time, when your rotations slim down to 7 or 8.
@Ryan: I too read that Darius Miles article. Thats BS that the Blazers will threaten legal action if another team signs him. That was nothing more than a power play for their fans up in Portland. Any team in the league has a right to sign him to a 10-day contract. The only reason Memphis got rid of him was so Miles' contract wasn't guaranteed for the rest of the season. Get over it Portland! You knew the risks when you signed the dude.
I won't talk trades, rather let Jeff and the boys do what they get paid to do. Juicy stuff though.
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Juncti
01/09/09 02:50 PM
Here it is straight from the mouth of the coach.
From the wwltv report
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Scott said his bench is holding the team back from being a great one and if something needs to be done, he’ll pull the trigger on a trade.
“I’ll still trade for guys. There ain’t no question,” Scott said. “We’ll do whatever we’ve got to do to make sure we’ve got a better basketball team out there. We know we’ve got a good team now, but we know the bench has been a problem the last couple of seasons with inconsistent play and we want more consistent play from our bench.”
The only players Scott seems enamored with of the bench right now are Hilton Armstrong – who has found his game in the past few weeks – and James Posey, a man they traded for to get help off the bench.
“We still need another guy or two who can contribute off the bench and help us,” Scott said.
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Looks like Armstrong may be safe. My pun lives to fight another day!
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Juncti
01/09/09 02:51 PM
Story in case anyone wants it.
http://www.wwltv.com/topstories/stories/wwl010909bhhornetsprev.c0ac621.html
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Andrea
01/09/09 03:14 PM
We should've traded for Jamal Crawford. We all know that B.Scott is serious about getting rid of guys..it's just a matter of who goes. I'm all for trading JuJu :-(. Nothing personal, but why let a talented kid who can actually be a successful NBA player sit and rot at the end of the pine or keep him in street clothes? As of right now, he'd be better of somewhere else
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Niall Doherty
01/09/09 03:24 PM
@ Juncti: Thanks for posting that. I'm glad Scott isn't blind to the fact that we don't have all the pieces just yet.
Also, I didn't realize we traded for James Posey :-P
@ louisianagyrl: I've started to feel that way, too. No point keeping JuJu around if he's not given the opportunity to develop.
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mW
01/09/09 03:59 PM
I'm not sure Byron really feels we really need a trade. I think he's the kind of coach that says stuff like that in the public arena so that his guys feel a sense of urgency and give him what he wants.
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two_tone
01/09/09 04:02 PM
there aren't any good trade option really available without getting something mediocre back at this moment. i still don't think julian is going anywhere. if anything a trade of one or two of our swing positions will open minutes for him. this team is limited with assets and need to hold on to them till at least the offseason unless they get a wow trade that they can't refuse. i'm all for standing pat. it could be worse everyone. we could have a team that has no sign of getting better or just the fact that at our best we still lose. this isn't the case here. we have room for improvement and have the same record at this time as last year. we need a backup for west. if the team is unhappy with its bench they shouldn't have guaranteed marks contract this week. they could have gotten more production from a d-leaguer.
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Caleb462
01/09/09 05:55 PM
I think a trade for Camby would be huge. But would Camby start over Chandler? Not sure how Tyson would react to that. Either way we'd have a really solid big man coming off the bench... and that's something that has been a key to success for many championship teams (think PJ Brown, Alonzo Mourning, etc.)
I like the Magette idea too... I've only seen him play a couple of times but I liked his game. Having a bonafide slasher would be a big boost for this team too.
And the Collison idea is also nice... it might not make the team hugely better like the two above trades could, but it would definitely make us a stronger team.
All that said... I understand the sentiment that some fans have - worrying that any major changes could throw a wrench into team chemistry. What we have very now is very good... that's true. But if the right trade comes along I think the team has to bite.
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Andrea
01/09/09 06:19 PM
@Niall: I can imagine Julian going to another team and having really good games against us like JR Smith or being a bit of a handful against us like Brandon Bass. That would suck big time.
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3ptace
01/09/09 08:29 PM
I can't believe y'all would even consider trading for Nick Collison....Hilton>>>Collison. Collison is undersized and overmatched for the position he plays and is only in the league because he plays for the Thunder. A big acquired from the D-league like Kyrylo Fesenko , Courtney Sims or another player would likely provide all we need and cost far less. I really like how Hilton has played of late.
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Kamo
01/10/09 07:55 AM
As for the miles' thing, i'm disgusted by the blazers sincerely. As for the trades, i'd never give armstrong away to get another big, even if better, because 1. hilton is playing his best season so far, is improving and most importantly is showing aggressiveness on both sides of the field and 2. because we'd be like we started, short of one big..but i like the trade with the suns, sincerely, i haven't liked at all what chandler has done so far this season, peja is better but still, he's old and can't improve, while barbosa (and especially stoudemire) can improve a lot. Sure, stat is a poor defender, against him any big in the league scores 20+ points and grabs 10+ rebounds, but amen, that'd be nice anyway. No way the suns would accept it, of course, but that's still a nice dream.
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Caleb462
01/10/09 04:55 PM
Hey I really like how Hilton has been playing too and I hope he continues to improve, but Collison is a nice player - he averaged nearly 10 boards a game last year. This year his minutes have dropped some but he's averaging 9 boards per 36 minutes compared to Hilton's 6 boards per 36 minutes. I only bring this up because rebounding is one of this team's weak points.
Still, I'll support Hilton for as long as he's a Hornet. He seems like a great guy and has shown some serious skill as of late.
Here's an idea - Joakim Noah. He's a great rebounder.
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