Note: I heard about the Chandler trade being rescinded as I was writing this recap, and so threw together a quick post about that here. The following is all about the game against Orlando and the players we had on the floor.
A flawless performance by the Hornets tonight. They executed a solid game plan, rebounded the ball extremely well, closed out pretty good on Orlando's shooters, and Chris Paul just so happened to be balling at an MVP level. Combine that with the Magic having a rough night shooting the ball, and we come away with our biggest margin of victory this season, 117-85.
Bullets...
- I could spend this whole recap just talking about the brilliance Chris Paul displayed tonight. As commenter Mark n' Becky put it in the game day thread, "I swear, Chris Paul is a video game. With a cheat code on." CP finished with 36 points (14-of-22 FGs), 10 assists, 6 rebounds and only one turnover in 31 minutes of action. He abused Orlando from all angles, especially off the pick and roll, and was a terror on the defensive end, too. One of my favorite plays in the game tonight was late in the third quarter when Chris was half the double team on Dwight Howard, helping deny the pass from the wing into the post. Then, reacting to a quick skip pass by Orlando, CP turned and made it all the way from the low block to the far corner to block a three-point attempt by Rashard Lewis. Yes, the 6-10 Rashard Lewis.
- As mentioned, the Hornets came out with a great game plan and executed it perfectly. Credit Byron Scott for at least the first part of that. Our bigs were physical with Dwight Howard, and we put him on the free throw line rather than give him anything easy around the basket. As ESPN analyst Hubie Brown noted, Hilton Armstrong was left alone to guard Dwight one-on-one, whereas we sent a double team when Marks, Ely or West had the assignment. Mixing it up like that worked well. Coming off a 45-point, 19-rebound, 8-block performance in Charlotte last night, Howard finished with just 12 points, 8 boards and one block against the Hornets, shooting 8-of-15 on FTs. It was the first time in 18 games that he failed to record a double-double.
- I loved the faster pace, too. We didn't get out on the break much, but there was far less pounding of the ball by West and Paul tonight. Everybody was making quick, decisive moves, always in attack mode. As such we didn't suffer through all the usual late-in-the-shot-clock desperation heaves. Hopefully this is something Byron has got the team doing consiously, and not just an abberation.
- Speaking of Hubie Brown, it's so much easier to recap a game that he works. I don't have to concentrate so hard on every play and try spot every adjustment, because I know Hubie will see and share the important stuff. Bob and Gil, please aspire to be that kind of announcer.
- Wonderful job by our bigs tonight. Ely finished with the best numbers, but really it was an excellent performance from the trio of him, Marks and Armstrong. They used their fouls wisely for the most part, and they helped us finish with a 46-35 rebounding edge in a game where we were supposed to get killed on the boards.
- The defense by our wings was nothing to be sneezed at either. A lot of Orlando's struggles tonight can be attributed to plain old cold shooting and Hedo's elbow troubles, but there was no denying that guys like Peja, Posey and Butler made life difficult for the Magic on the perimeter. Good solid closeouts, rotations and help in the lane.
- Offensively, pretty much everyone was sharp. Except maybe David West, but he was smart enough not to force much and so had an effective scoring night. Looked like Orlando were intent on doubling every time he caught the ball below the foul line, but he was able to get some buckets by staying out high and firing.
- The 117 points are a season high for the Hornets, and the most allowed by Orlando this season. Not bad against a team ranked second in the NBA in defensive efficiency. Also, this was by far the Magic's biggest loss of the season, having only lost three previous games this season by double digits. One of those was a 19-point loss in Boston, the other two were 10-point defeats vs. the Mavs and Celtics.
- I love Stan Van Gundy. He was mic'd up for the game, and early in the fourth he was heard telling his assisants "we haven't had a game plan or an adjustment tonight that's worked, so no point yelling at our guys. This is all on us." I hate to take a jab at Byron Scott after such a performance (or do I?), but I doubt you'd ever hear such a statement from him.
Some parting thoughts:
On ESPN's NBA Shootaround before the game, Stuart Scott, Avery Johnson and Jamal Mashburn were debating which player is more import to their team, Chris Paul or Dwight Howard. I recall Avery going with with Dwight (and had a great line to defend his choice: "Chris Paul, I'm still angry with him. He got me fired!").
That debate got me thinking about which player I'd rather start a franchise with, Paul or Howard? I've decided I'd go with CP for one main reason: he has no obvious flaw in his game. Dwight obviously does have a pretty big one, as we saw tonight when the Hornets decided to foul consistently and dared him to beat us with his 60 percent free throw shooting.
Now of course that tactic doesn't work all the time or Howard wouldn't be a top-five MVP candidate or even an All-Star. But it works often enough for me to take Paul, who can hit from any distance with such accuracy now that he's damn near impossible to stop. Try double team him and he'll just beat both defenders with the dribble or find the open man. Sometimes he'll beat both defenders, then find the open man, just for kicks.
Not to sell Howard short though, I have to say he'd be my second choice behind Paul if I could pick anyone in the NBA to start a franchise with. Yes, even ahead of LeBron, Kobe, and the rest. I see Paul and Howard as two of the best character guys in the League; not just great players, but also great people. I'm not a big fan of LeBron's egocentric marketing-driven persona, and while I have come to respect Kobe a lot, he's now a little too old to be starting a franchise with, and he doesn't have anywhere near the crowd-pleasing personality that Paul and Howard possess.


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emir
02/18/09 11:11 PM
hmm what about wade i'm guessing he would be your 3rd choice
and yeah this game was perfectly played by the hornets its as if they practiced for this one all of their lives
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emir
02/18/09 11:15 PM
0 and just as a side note
the new suns are scaring the hell out of me i used to look forward to playing them but now there just running at two fast of a pace makes me feel uncomfortable. hopefully we can keep up with them
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Niall Doherty
02/18/09 11:21 PM
Yeah, Wade would probably be third. My main concern with him would be durability, and I'd rather build with a PG or a C than anything else if push came to shove. But that's about it.
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LSUhornet17
02/18/09 11:38 PM
I'm not scared of the Suns until they beat somebody besides the Clippers. I love watching them play that style and they might be improved, but we had a knack for beating the Suns even under D'Antoni.
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mW
02/18/09 11:51 PM
Niall, could you hear the loud MVP chant the crowd had going at one point?
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Ryan Schwan
02/19/09 12:00 AM
I could hear the MVP chant, yeah. The announcers didn't acknowledge it though.
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bigindian15
02/19/09 12:02 AM
"I've decided I'd go with CP for one main reason: he has no obvious flaw in his game. Dwight obviously does have a pretty big one, as we saw tonight when the Hornets decided to foul consistently and dared him to beat us with his 60 percent free throw shooting."
Haha you stole that from Bill Simmons. I'd still put LeBron first (yeah he's egocentric, but I'm sure he's told to be that way by his people to get more money from teams like NY) but CP is definitely second. Of course, once Howard develops even a below-average post game instead of just dunking 10 times a game, he will be completely and totally unstoppable.
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Ryan Schwan
02/19/09 12:10 AM
CP3 and Dwight Howard are both one of a kind, though. You're not going to find a center or point guard close to their caliber.
LeBron? Dwayne Wade, Kobe Bryant - even Brandon Roy and Manu Ginobili are all pretty close to him as far as being the best wing player in the league.
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Andrea
02/19/09 12:16 AM
Nice win tonight. If I had to start a franchise, I'd start it with LeBron. Chris Paul would be my second choice and Duncan (circa '97-'05) would be my third. I just don't like Dwight's game yet. In two more years once he polishes his offensive game, he'd be my #1 choice. He's still too raw offensively for me.
Did anyone else catch Howard's dunk on Hilton? I don't know what's more impressive: the dunk or the fact that CP (trying to break up the alley-oop) got up high enough to even be seen?
I'm with LSU on the Suns. They gave us little trouble last season and they still aren't as good as they were then.
-I love Stan Van Gundy. He was mic'd up for the game, and early in the fourth he was heard telling his assisants "we haven't had a game plan or an adjustment tonight that's worked, so no point yelling at our guys. This is all on us." I hate to take a jab at Byron Scott after such a performace (or do I?), but I doubt you'd ever hear such a statement from him.
JVG's brother is slowly becoming my favorite coach in the league. I literally thought the exact same thing when I heard what he was telling his staff. He's a great coach and if the Magic can stay afloat with/without Nelson, he should win Coach Of The Year.
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LSUhornet17
02/19/09 12:26 AM
I'm really liking Rasual lately. Two games in a row with 8 boards and he's good for about a block a game. He definitely gives us more than Mo at the 2 guard spot last year. Without Sual's resurgence (emergence?) we would be significantly worse off considering Tyson's drop in production.
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LSUhornet17
02/19/09 12:35 AM
Oh and yesterday I commented about DWest seemingly only rebounding well when his scoring is up. Well on a relatively quiet night from West scoring-wise, he compensates with 3 whole boards. Ugh, I'd much rather off be wrong on that observation. No excuse for our All-Star PF being out-rebounded by 5 other players on our team, including our 6ft point guard. I'm not sure if his guarding a perimeter-oriented PF in Rashard Lewis should hurt or help his rebound numbers. On one hand he has to venture further from the basket to guard Lewis, but Lewis spending a lot of time on the outsidte also leaves more room for West to crash the boards. What do yall think?
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JoJo
02/19/09 01:33 AM
That was one of my favorite games to attend. I'd put it behind on the Chris Paul game winning 3 so far this year. We just kicked the living crap out of them. Hilton's defense in the first 4 minutes really gave us the confidence we needed to stop Howard all night.
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chefcdb
02/19/09 01:54 AM
@LSU, that's a very perceptive comment about DX and his lack of rebounding when he's not scoring. I will give him a pass on this game because a) we outworked Orlando all night on the boards, and b) playing a perimeter 4 guy like Rayshard, who is also switching to a tall ball-handling 3 like Hedo and both jack up tons o' 3s, that neutralizes West getting boards. They also kept double-teaming DX if he posted deep, and that cuts down on his chances at offensive putbacks. Let's keep that as a duly noted trend, but on a night when we crushed the Magic and removed the ESPN curse, I am not gonna quibble over DX's rebounding.
I really wanted this game because the Magic got my Xmas off to such a sour note! It was some vindication, even a little catharsis from all the troubles over the-trade-that-never-happened. I saw Dwight Howard at the end of the game give his shoes to two different kids, and some of his other uni stuff to other fans before he trudged down the tunnel. What a classy, friendly, gentle giant. I think he and CP enjoy playing against each other, and they probably had a blast together for the Olympics. I'm glad he blew up as Superman here in our city's All-Star game because Dwight seems to be one of the real good guys in the NBA.
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Niall Doherty
02/19/09 06:43 AM
@ bigindian15: You gotta link? I honestly haven't seen that Simmons article.
@ mW: Yeah, I heard the MVP chants, too. Well deserved. I heard the crowd was pretty "jovial" even before the game. I thought a lot of people would be upset about the Chandler trade. Nice crowd for a Wednesday game during Mardi Gras, too.
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stormsurge
02/19/09 06:57 AM
I know a bunch of people were meloncholy at the start of the game because of the trade, including me. It took me a little while to get into it, but CP3 being just a total monster really got the cobwebs out in a hurry. You could almost see the sign he was carrying around saying "We will ALWAYS be contenders with me here. And that co-MVP thing? Fugettaboutit!"
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byronscott4
02/19/09 07:16 AM
I'm not all that wise in the ways of basketball, but let's say that watching the second half of the game was pure joy. Not only was it televised (I live in MN), but I got to see a great game. CP3 was everything he wanted to be (that stutter move was sweet), Butler was impressing me on both ends of the court and even Armstrong was solid. It seemed like all the cogs were working although Peja's outside shots seemed off (he should fake and take shorter shots when that happens IMO) and this was without Chandler. If this team could play anything close to this every game, that would be great!
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jlam
02/19/09 08:29 AM
@chef:
Re: Dwight Howard, yeah I've found myself over the last year and a half or so really rooting for him on a personal level. I mean I only have one team and can't find it in myself to split my loyalties even 90/10 or something like that, but it's just impossible to not want to see someone like Howard succeed. He just seems like one the precious few who really understands the position he's in and cherishes the hell out of every minute of it. I wish he'd have been around while I lived in Orlando instead of Tmac. Ugh.
Now watch him get caught snorting coke off a tranny stripper's crack or something.
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Mikey
02/19/09 08:45 AM
CP was favoring his groin again toward the end of the game, but tried to hide it by only grabbing at it when he was facing away from the bench. Byron saw it, noticed we were up by like 26, and immediately yanked him. That was his best coaching move all night. How about 17 points and 16 rebounds from the center position as a whole tonight? I'll take it.
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DemonDeaconHead
02/19/09 09:23 AM
@ Niall, I think bigindian15 was referring to Simmons's trade value column, where Dwight and CP were 2/3 spots on his list behind Lebron:
"3. Chris Paul
2. Dwight Howard
The small and big versions of each other: 23-year-old franchise players, a guaranteed 50 wins every season, statistical freaks, terrific teammates, good interviews, immensely fun to watch in person, disproportionately important to their teams. ... Really, the only difference is that Howard has a legitimate flaw (free-throw shooting) and with Paul, you have to nitpick for something like, "Bigger point guards can post him up." I like where this is going.
(Interesting e-mail from Jared in Bowling Green, Ky.: "Recently, I caught two different interviews with Dwight Howard and came to this conclusion -- he's the real life Josh Baskin. Never before have I seen a 23-year-old who actually reminds me of most fourth graders. I suggest that Dwight be cast as Josh Baskin if 'Big' is ever re-made with an all-black cast like they did with 'Can't Buy Me Love.' He was made to play that role." Is it a good thing that our No. 2 Trade Value guy was just compared to the kid from "Big" and the comparison worked? I can't decide.)"
Link: http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/090212
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Ryan Schwan
02/19/09 10:02 AM
Who doesn't favor their groin? I mean, my life would be much worse without it.
Too much?
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Niall Doherty
02/19/09 11:11 AM
@ Ryan: Of course not. You can never have too much groin.
@ DemonDeaconHead: Thanks for posting that. With CP, I also like that he can go get the ball and then be dangerous. For Howard to be dangerous, his teammates need to get him the ball in good positions.
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Niall Doherty
02/19/09 11:12 AM
Speaking of Paul's nagging injuries, he had his elbow very heavily wrapped as he sat on the bench during the fourth quarter. He didn't seem all that concerned by it though.
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Ryan Schwan
02/19/09 12:32 PM
Yeah - the amount of ice and wrapping he had on his knees and elbow made him look a bit like the Michelin man.
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ticktock6
02/19/09 01:36 PM
It couldn't have been that bad. He and Posey looked like they were having quite the good time shoving and laughing back and forth on the bench. At one point, Posey was even pulling him around by the ace bandage. At the time I was watching the bench, and was amazed they were all in such good moods with the Tyson trade. Peja and Mo were goofing with some kids in the baseline seats the whole 4th quarter.
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added
02/19/09 09:38 PM
'CP3 has no obvious flaws in his game?'
man, i really like paul's game but i cant let this one slide....
no flaws? really? what about the lack of height or strength when getting posted by bigger guards? what about on-ball defense? and i dont mean picking or gambling for steals...i mean real shut down defense kobe style?
paul does a lot of good things and so does dwight...but i will take the good things that dwight does over the good things that paul does as i feel they weight more in the context of a game....and you gotta say, over the course of NBA history, more teams have won when the team has had a good big man or a built around a big man, than when they were built around a PG...
im just saying...
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Ryan Schwan
02/19/09 11:38 PM
Really. Paul is one of the best defenders in the game - regardless of his height and strength. I've seen him successfully posted by bigger guards three times in his four seasons. People always claim that's his weakness, but it's crap and it's always been crap.
Paul's on the ball defense is also very good. OH, and the so called "Kobe-style" defense that people always point to shows up once every 15 games in Los Angeles - and isn't even there consistently through the playoffs.
By all statistical measures, Paul's got a major impact on the defense of his team - and according to PERs, the PGs of teams facing the Hornets average the fifth worst PER of any team in the league.
Howard can rebound and dunk. Paul can do those (his rebounding numbers are insane for a guard, much less a 6'0" guard, and he can dunk) and he can also produce a larger percentage of his teams offense than any other player in the league.
For me, it's Paul in a landslide over Dwight Howard.
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Niall Doherty
02/20/09 07:57 AM
@ added: What Ryan said.
The point you make is more about mismatches than anything. If another team goes with big guards to try exploit Paul in the post (which is easier said than done anyway; Paul is pretty feisty down there), then they're definitely going to pay at the other end with CP zipping past those same big perimeter players.
You can play the same mismatch game with Dwight Howard. Go the small-ball route and he's forced to step out and try guard fast wingmen. But again, the other team sacrifices their defense for that offensive advantage.
And regarding shut-down defense, I've seen Chris Paul do that a few times (Ben Gordon last season is one that springs to mind). True, he can't shut down the likes of Kobe or LeBron, but neither can Dwight Howard. What Dwight can do is lock down an opposing pivot, much like CP can lock down an opposing quarterback.
As for your last point about winning teams historically having a star big man first and foremost, all I can say is that Chris Paul is on course to be one of the all-time great point guards in NBA history. Like, top-five great. When it's all said and done, he'll be mentioned in the same breath as guys like Magic, Stockton, Oscar, Isiah, Cousy...
Apart from Stockton, all those guys won championships. Stockton came real close more than once.
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