There's been a lot of discussion about which players in the league you'd want dominating the ball for you if your team had to score on their final posession. The typical candidates in most discussions are premier scorers like Kobe Bryant, LeBron James, and Dwayne Wade, and there are some nice crunch-time stats you can find at sites like 82games.com. Recently, Henry Abbott over at Truehoop made a nice post discussing it.
Well, after seeing that game-winning play last night, I began researching a post about about how Chris Paul - and David West - do in the fourth quarter. I'll have that post up for you in a few days, but while I was going over numbers, I found something else that fascinated me so much I wanted to talk about it more. There are lots of players who can create their own shot, but who is asked to do it more than anyone else? And how good are they at converting those shots? I set about making a list.
To see what stats I used and where I got them, you can see my notes at the end of this post, but what I ended up with was 43 players. I then put together a rough ranking system based on how often those players are assisted when making shots,(the fewer times they are assisted, the more times they are creating the shot themselves) and then adjusted that rank based on whether they were a better or worse than average shooter, since a guy who generates shots on his own but sucks at hitting those shots should be penalized.
Example: Baron Davis has been assisted by his teammates only 24% of the time this season, good for 5th best on the list. His FG%, however, is an awful 36.5% this year, good for dead last, and fully 7.3% worse than the average FG% the players on this list post. His average ranking, therefore, puts him as the 33rd best creator out of the list of 43 heavy creators - or really, the 11th worst.
What results is a list I call The Greatest Penetrators in the League.
| Overall Rank | Player | % of Shots Assisted | %of Shots Assisted Rank | FG% | FG% Rank |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | C. Paul | 14% | 1 | 50.3% | 1 |
| 2 | S. Nash | 18% | 2 | 49.2% | 6 |
| 3 | J. Nelson | 27% | 8 | 50.3% | 1 |
| 4 | D. Wade | 25% | 7 | 49.3% | 5 |
| 5 | T. Parker | 27% | 8 | 49.0% | 7 |
| 6 | R. Rondo | 33% | 20 | 50.3% | 1 |
| 7 | A. Miller | 31% | 15 | 48.7% | 8 |
| 8 | J. Calderon | 35% | 24 | 49.9% | 4 |
| 9 | B. Roy | 32% | 17 | 48.3% | 10 |
| 10 | L. James | 33% | 20 | 48.7% | 8 |
| 11 | D. Williams | 29% | 11 | 46.8% | 13 |
| 12 | D. Harris | 23% | 3 | 44.3% | 17 |
| 13 | TJ Ford | 23% | 3 | 44.1% | 19 |
| 14 | R. Stuckey | 29% | 11 | 45.6% | 15 |
| 15 | K. Bryant | 37% | 28 | 47.5% | 11 |
| 16 | D. Rose | 35% | 24 | 46.2% | 14 |
| 17 | J. Salmons | 38% | 34 | 47.2% | 12 |
| 18 | C. Billups | 30% | 13 | 42.1% | 26 |
| 19 | M. Conley | 34% | 23 | 43.6% | 22 |
| 20 | R. Westbrook | 28% | 10 | 40.9% | 32 |
| 21 | E. Watson | 24% | 5 | 39.7% | 39 |
| 22 | C. Duhon | 32% | 17 | 42.1% | 26 |
| 23 | A. Iverson | 32% | 17 | 41.7% | 29 |
| 24 | N. Young | 37% | 28 | 43.8% | 20 |
| 25 | K. Lowry | 31% | 15 | 41.2% | 30 |
| 26 | R. Sessions | 38% | 34 | 44.5% | 16 |
| 27 | R. Gay | 40% | 37 | 44.2% | 18 |
| 28 | L. Williams | 37% | 28 | 42.4% | 25 |
| 29 | S. Jackson | 36% | 27 | 41.8% | 28 |
| 30 | A. Johnson | 40% | 37 | 43.7% | 21 |
| 31 | OJ Mayo | 40% | 37 | 43.4% | 23 |
| 32 | V. Carter | 40% | 37 | 43.4% | 23 |
| 33 | B. Davis | 24% | 5 | 36.5% | 43 |
| 34 | L. Ridnour | 35% | 24 | 39.9% | 38 |
| 35 | J. Crawford | 37% | 28 | 40.6% | 34 |
| 36 | A. Johnson | 37% | 28 | 40.5% | 35 |
| 37 | S. Rodriguez | 30% | 13 | 37.3% | 40 |
| 38 | A. Brooks | 37% | 28 | 40.0% | 37 |
| 39 | R. Foye | 38% | 34 | 41.1% | 31 |
| 40 | H. Turkoglu | 40% | 37 | 40.8% | 33 |
| 41 | R. Felton | 40% | 37 | 40.4% | 36 |
| 42 | S. Telfair | 33% | 20 | 36.6% | 42 |
| 43 | R. Alston | 40% | 37 | 37.0% | 41 |
A bit unsurprisingly, this list is headed by a bunch of sweet-shooting guards with great ballhandling skills. Chris Paul ranks first(mostly due to the fact only 14% of his shots are assisted. Sheesh.), followed by fellow efficient-shooting point guards Steve Nash and Jameer Nelson. Then comes Super Pinball Dwayne Wade, Tony Parker, and Rajon Rondo(!). Brandon Roy ranks 9th, LeBron James 10th, and Kobe Bryant 15th.
It seems fitting that the Hornets good friend, Rafer Alston, ranks dead last.
Oh - and by no means am I saying Rodney Stuckey is a more effective scorer than Kobe Bryant. What I'm saying is that when he's on the floor, he creates his own shot more consistently, and converts it at a very nice rate, making him more of a solo-show penetrator than Bryant is. So cool yourself down, Kobe fans.
Notes
To make this chart, I went to 82games.com and collected the players who were assisted on their baskets the least, feeling it was a good indicator of how often a player generates their own shot. I then cut off the list at anyone who was assisted on more than 40% of their made field goals. Then I cut that list further to players who actually contribute significantly by having played at least 30% of their teams minutes. Last, I collected FG% to tell me how effective those players are when they shoot.
I considered using eFG%, but that just adds 3-Point effectiveness to a players numbers, and since almost all players get their 3-point shots off of assists, it's pretty silly to put into a number that ranks players that carry a heavy load and how well they do. Oh - and another side note, Dwayne Wade and Steve Nash get assisted on only 35% of their three's, as opposed to almost every other player on this list who averages 55-75% of their threes. Those two guys may be slightly underrated as a result.


13 legendary comments post your own
The_big_H
03/19/09 04:52 PM
Nice. But does it take into account the FT attempted? Getting to the line is just as effective but doesn't count as a FG attempted hence would not show up in FG%.
Just a thought
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Ben Q Rock
03/19/09 05:17 PM
Great stuff, Ryan. I do think adding some way to measure foul-drawing, as The_big_h suggested, has some merit. I wonder if accounting for fouls would inflate the rankings of some of the higher profile players. "Star treatment" and all that.
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Ryan Schwan
03/19/09 05:29 PM
I considered using True shooting percentage, which would do that for me, but that includes 3-point shooting too. So I went simple. Probably a good idea though.
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Fundefined
03/19/09 10:36 PM
Seems far too simplistic, penetration isn't simply about FG% it's also shots created off penetration and finishing. Also as another poster said it's also fouls drawn off penetration. I'm not sure how to measure assists off penetration though. Nelson isn't really a great penetration as he is a good off the dribble middle range shooter considering his terrible inside shot % due to his height. So I wouldn't call this the best penetrators but rather the best creators of their own shots.
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Ryan Schwan
03/19/09 11:41 PM
Most of these players get at least 1/4 of their shots classified as "Close". Kobe Bryant, 21%, Nelson 23%, and Paul 26% are good examples. Tony Parker is the best I've seen on this list with 40% of his shots being close.
I called this Penetrators, because almost every one of them Penetrate to get these shots - even if it's only ten feet for a nice mid-range pull up. That is generally how you create a shot.
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Niall Doherty
03/20/09 07:41 AM
I'd echo those concerns about drawing fouls and creating shots for others, but pretty much every statistical analysis will have holes in it. This is interesting for what it is. To me, it's a good measure of which players create high-percentage shots for themselves in crunch time.
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mW
03/20/09 08:58 AM
I question not the overall method, but how reliable this a as a measure of "clutch". For example, someone might be a 90% FT shooter, but choke with no time on the clock and the game on the line. Or a 50% FG shooter may be able to create his own shot normally, but not at the end of the game, when the entire team collapses on him. Further what about guys who light it up until May, but have a rep for choking in the second season? I'd way rather have T Parker with the rock with the game on the line over Jameer, or Iverson over T.J. Ford.
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Ryan Schwan
03/20/09 09:03 AM
This isn't actually a clutch stat, mW. This is over the course of a game. The stat is supposed to reflect players who are most often given the ball, set loose to manufacture their own shot, and then hit them at a high rate.
I considered adding free throws per shot, super-assists(those that lead to dunks or layups) or even just plain assists, but decided to keep it simple.
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Mikey
03/20/09 09:44 AM
When I saw this list, the 1st thing that stuck out to me were a handfull of guys that were not on it, namely Manu Ginoboli, Nate Robinson, Joe Johnson, and Carmelo Anthony. I can see Melo not being there because his FG% took a huge hit early in the season. Still, its suprising to see guys like Luke Ridnour and Ramon Sessions on this list, and not the guys I mentioned.
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mW
03/20/09 10:54 AM
@ Ryan: my bad. And don't get me wrong, I like the exploration of stats that aren't commonly put together and show actual work by the author, not just the regurgitation of the same, like you see from a lot of mainstream media.
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Niall Doherty
03/20/09 12:26 PM
Ah, I misunderstood it too, then. I also thought it was a stat for crunch time only.
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Wendy
03/20/09 05:01 PM
Did you consider using just 2P% instead of overall FG%? Seems like this would avoid crediting guys with 3-pointers, but without punishing guys that do take the lower % 3s. I'm with the others on finding a way to include fouls drawn, maybe using the 82games.com "fouls drawn" data?
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Chris
03/20/09 05:26 PM
When you look at the top of this list, and consider the types of offenses those guys operate in, it's really no surprise. The two things that stand out for me: Jameer Nelson being so high on, since you'd expect him to be more a beneficiary of Dwight's kickouts and less of a penetrator; and Lebron James being so low, since Bron plays such a huge role in Cleveland's offense.
One thing that these stats can't really account for - the pick and roll. Getting a pick to free up your own shot is almost like getting an assist. I'd like to see how those % of shots assisted numbers would change if picks were factored in.
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