Finally the Hornets were able to come out, build up a big lead, and pretty much sustain it all the way to the finish. The Warriors fell in love with the no-passing and the long-shooting in the second quarter and our reserves were able to stretch the lead out. We weren't having much luck from downtown either, but our guys were disciplined enough not to keep chucking, instead getting inside for more reliable looks. It was pretty much tit for tat in the third quarter and most of the fourth, until we started to look tired and G-State put a run together. Not enough time left though for them to make it all the way back, or for the Hornets to deliver free chicken. Shucks.
Some bullets for your perusal...
- Hilton Armstrong was having himself one helluva game before he got his finger all cut up early in the third and had to leave to go get stitches. He had a double-double by halftime, showing some very nice, aggressive moves against Anthony Randolph down low and coming up with rebounds at both ends of the floor. In just 16 minutes of action, Hilton ended up with 14 points (5-of-6 FGs), 11 boards and a block. Hopefully the finger thing won't cause him to miss any more time.
- Rare sighting of some good play by the Hornets bench in the second quarter. It helped that the Warriors seemed intent on settling for long and quick jumpers, but our guys took care of the boards and found ways to score. We had Antonio Daniels knocking down shots, lots of guys taking it to the rim, and Ryan Bowen running around causing several varieties of havoc. We'd put an 11-2 run together before David West returned to the floor, and Byron was able to rest Chris Paul for nine whole minutes of game time. Very nice job by the second unit. I'm already looking forward to the next blue moon.
- Speaking of Bowen, he also got hurt tonight. I didn't see it happen, but apparently he dislocated his shoulder. He didn't seem in any pain though when he left the game in the second quarter, receiving a nice cheer from the crowd for his relentless hustle. He was back on the bench later with his shoulder all wrapped up, and rumor has it he was doing one-arm push ups in the locker room after the game, just to keep that adrenaline flowing.
- Byron's decision to leave our big guns in at the start of the fourth quarter was not a good one. I guess he was hoping we could put another quick run together to really finish off the Warriors, then empty the bench for the final eight or nine minutes. Less risky would have been to start the fourth as we started the second, only bringing West and Paul back if the Warriors made a run. That way the bench would have been rewarded for their earlier play and our starters would have been ready with fresh legs to squash any comeback attempt. As it was, the Warriors made their run anyway and Byron couldn't take West and Paul out of the game for fear of blowing it. Our two All-Stars didn't look perky down the stretch either, with West having trouble holding onto the ball and CP settling for long jumpers. Fortunately we don't play again until Wednesday, and Byron had already decided to give Chris and D-West the day off from practice tomorrow.
- Twas kid's night at the Arena tonight, as well as Hugo's birthday. They had a kid do the pre-game intros, and there was the crowd-favorite baby race at halftime (hio1515 must have been loving that). A few other NBA team mascots were in attendance, including Houston's Clutch and his pink thong. Inflatable clutch was at the party too, and he managed to swallow a Honeybee during one game break. Can't blame him, she did look delicious.
- Methinks the Warriors are a fairly undisciplined bunch. In Corey Maggette and Stephen Jackson, they have two guys that can get to the free throw line anytime they want to, but they seem far more content to settle for those long jumpers. To be fair, they really only fell into that trap in the second quarter, but that proved to be the difference in the ballgame. Had they stayed focused and attacked the basket in Q2, they would have given themselves a great chance to win this game.
- By the way, does anyone know what was up with Don Nelson chilling on the bench all game, preferring to let assistant Keith Smart work the sideline? Is that how Nellie usually runs ship?
- West had to work hard for his 23 points. He shot the ball pretty well, but he ended up with 5 turnovers. The Warriors doubled him a lot and Maggette was pretty physical with him in the second half. West did make some nice passes out of the post though, finishing with 6 assists, only two shy of CP.
- Some numbers: Rebounding ended up even at 47, though we had a 30-23 edge at the half. The Warriors finished 4-of-19 from deep (they were 1-of-12 in the first half), we were 4-of-16. We went 17-20 from the free throw line, they were 21-of-27. We led points in the paint, 46-42. Golden State had 15 fast break points to our 13, which speaks well of our transition D and the pace of the game being in our favor.
The Rockets beat the Spurs in San Antonio earlier today to move into that second playoff spot. We're now in fifth, just 1.5 games behind Houston. Full standings here. The Nuggets are a half game ahead of us, and they just so happen to be our next opponent, dropping by the Arena on Wednesday. Those guys can be handy at the rebounding and the inside scoring, so let's hope our bigs are all healed up and ready to rumble by then.
To finish on a positive note, Peja has been on the bench in a suit for the past three games (maybe just for the first halves; I can't recall seeing him after halftime). I'll take that as a good sign that his back injury isn't too bad, since he'd surely be staying home getting supermodel massages and drinking herbal tea if the spine was all achy-breaky all the time.


22 thoughtful comments post your own
YoungFella
03/22/09 10:56 PM
Nice week of basketball coming up:
Monday : Nuggets at Suns
Tuesday : Rockets at Jazz
Wednes : Nuggets at Hornets, Spurs at Hawks, Jazz at Suns
Thursda : Suns at Trailblazers
Friday : Nuggets at Mavs, Hornets at Knicks
Saturda : Suns at Jazz
Sunday : Spurs at Hornets
#1
Mark
03/22/09 10:56 PM
Commentators said Don Nelson had an ice pack on his back, but with them, you never know if they're kidding. Seems plausible, since they did mention Nellie is 68 or so. He used to be pretty active when he got angry during his tenure with the Mavs, so maybe he's trying the Phil Jackson route. Y'know, sitting around picking his nose and whatnot.
Spurs are without Emanuel, so I give them a pass to drop a few before playoffs. But if there's a time to strike, it's now. We could get up in the standings if we can just be more consistent with this somewhat lenient schedule.
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Ryan Schwan
03/22/09 11:01 PM
They got a camera shot of the icepack on Nellie's back near the end of the game. He was pretty stiff moving around too.
Keith Smart is apparently his defensive coordinator. Maybe he was up trying to get some sort of defense organized.
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mW
03/22/09 11:05 PM
Hornets win! 10 or 20. I'll take it.
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Andrea
03/22/09 11:10 PM
A win..yay! Next 3 games are big. I think we can handle Denver at the hive as long as 'Melo goes crazy, at the Knicks is a game we SHOULD win, then the biggie when the Spurs come to town. That game is even more important now that the Rockets lead the division.
#5
chefcdb
03/23/09 01:00 AM
This was the last home game vs a sub .500 team, so a win was absolutely crucial tonight. We have 4 road games left against losing teams, and the rest of the games are against playoff caliber teams, unless the Suns fall completely apart by the time we see them on April 8th at the Hive.
I think it may have been a miscalculation not to rest CP and DX to start the 4th since we had 20 pt lead. I know with all the bigs injured that West might've had to play some, but the Warriors play small anyway so we wouldn't have been at a disadvantage with Marks and Poz up front. It was interesting that Mo Pete played the entire 4th with Rasual and Poz, while Juju rode the bench. I'm glad Peterson got some extended playing time, and he did hit one big 3 from the corner as the Warriors were trying to whittle the lead to under 10. I know last time we had a gigantic lead, the bench squandered it, but tonight the bench had earned much of this lead and, as Niall put it, they deserved the reward of defending their labors.
This was the first time in a while that the 2nd unit played with some flow to their game, even though they began with two unforced turnovers they didn't hang their heads. It helped that the Warriors were clanking ice cold jumpers, but Daniels seemed to be back to playing hoops instead of dreading the next mistake, whether his fault or not. The team needs a whole lot more of that confidence from that group.
I might be nuts, but I'd like to see Peja play more limited minutes with the 2nd unit, to boost their scoring AND because it seems that Juju thrives playing as a starter running alongside CP. When we had the injuries to CP & DX, remember how Peja turned into a flamethrower? I think his presence with the 2nd unit, and maybe playing 4th quarter minutes with the starters, would really help our spacing when AD is guiding things. I also don't want to put Peja back in heavy rotation right away because once a back starts acting up, playing lots of minutes could lead to another long stint with no Peja in the playoffs.
So the final 13 games, only 5 more at home. Would you take a 9-4 record, or like me are we just a little more greedy?
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pejavu
03/23/09 01:59 AM
everytime I read the comments i get reeally worried people don't understand playoff winning basketball. Starting juju and peja off the bench is not a smart basketball decision. Against teams who care, houston and atlanta for example, we had no spacing and they collapsed the paint. Also, rasual and poseys open threes have decreased due to the never leave peja rule or opponets play not to help off him and the rotation always over rotating to peja. All peja has to do is stand out there and teams game plan to stop him, that three feet of sag by defenders clogs lobs and pentration. Winning theses games the past few weeks against far less opponets can be done with Paul alone, but peja playing well is a must to win round 1 -3.
So, I like the idea of paul playing with second unit and peja playing the whole first quarter. scott needs to rest Paul and west until playoffs start so this is what he should due if we get everyone back wednesday.
paul and chandler leaves at 5 minute mark 1 st and 3rd quarter(stockton did the same in utah for years and malone stayed in) letting west and peja play as the offense with a two man game running peja off screens and posting west.
ju ju, chandler, and paul come in to start 2nd 4th and rest west and peja 6 minutes in 2nd and 4th. paul would have 38 mins west and peja 36. we can rotate butler and posey and ju ju in the 2-4 positions along with armstrong at center with marks playing against bigger teams. Ju JU can play 4 against dallas and phoenix style teams. We need to quit playing are 3 big guns the whole 1st and 3rd quaters so we can be freash late in the fourth and not have 5 bench players on the floor at once.
PLease stay healthy peja, our three point game is absent since you left. The three point shot leads to blow out wins.
#7
YoungFella
03/23/09 07:57 AM
I agree - you have to start Peja. He keeps the floor open and gives us that safety option. As good as Rasual has been playing he still doesn't make the defense sag like Peja does.
It's not so much who starts and who comes off the bench as it is that we now have 3 legitimate subs: Posey, JuJu, and MoPete. This is the team that we thought we were going to have.
Scott is an idiot so I doubt he will do this, but he really needs to play MoPete a ton in the last 3 weeks of the regular season to ensure that he's firing on all cylinders come playoff time. I'd even start him every 3 or 4 games and assure Rasual it's just to get MoPete a chance to get back and get his confidence up.
But I'm just crazy like that. God forbid Scott start acting like George Karl or Popovich and care about chemistry more than "rewarding guy who have earned it".
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RonJohn
03/23/09 08:05 AM
You don't need to start *Peja*, you need to start a *3-shooter*.
Doesn't matter whether that's Peja or someone younger and cheaper.
#9
Mikey
03/23/09 08:59 AM
Ok, so the cakewalk portion of the schedule is now over. Let's review; since February 23rd, the Hornets have gone 12-3, with their losses coming at the Hawks, at the Bulls, and a shorthanded loss to the Rockets at home. In all, they took care of business during this stretch. Now comes the gauntlet that is the last 3-1/2 weeks of the season. The Hornets last game against a sub .500 team is April 3rd at the Warriors, and winning at Oracle is no gimmie. 8 out of the last 13 games of the season are against teams in the West fighting for seeding or fighting for their playoff lives. At least the Hornets play Utah in our building for a change, and NOT on a segbaba after a game with the Lakers, like both of the previous games in Utah. 5 out of those 8 important Western Conference games are against divisional opponents (2 home & 3 away).
These next three plus weeks will tell us all we need to know about this team as they make a push for the playoffs. It starts with Denver.
#10
420ftJesus
03/23/09 09:01 AM
This has been rightly overlooked, but the Hornets attendance as of last night makes it a mathematical certainty that the loophole in the lease of the Arena is closed. 0 attendance (which I think is ticket sales really, which means this was certain long ago) for the remining games gives us an average over the nearly 2 year period of interest of over 14,735.
In fact, it's over 15,800 over that period right now and will probably increase.
Good job, fans.
I did hear something about new attendance goals, but I think these are more tied to state money than giving the option to the Hornets to leave. Does anyone know more about this?
#11
stormsurge
03/23/09 09:07 AM
About Peja.....yeah. I was a Kings fan when Peja was in Sac. Ive watched him ever since. One thing about Peja: he will get you to the playoffs and then disappear. You gotta have another credible 3-pt shooter on the floor cause "Peja caves in the playoffs" ranks up there with TMac not being able to make the 2nd rnd in terms of basketball wisdom regarding players.
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Dariusz Ejkiewicz
03/23/09 09:37 AM
So I design a Hilton Armstrong wallpaper and he gets a career night? Melvin Ely will be up next, haha.
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Caleb462
03/23/09 10:26 AM
@Ronjohn... no, it matters that its Peja. Some random three-point shooter doesn't spread the floor like Peja. A lot of it is psychology. The opposition sees Peja as a *huge* threat from the perimeter (rightly so... even though he's dropped below 40% this year), and they gameplan accordingly. Our offense is very dependent on this fact. There's a reason our other shooters haven't been getting as many open looks with Peja out. Butler, Posey, Mo Pete - these guys benefit greatly from Peja being on the floor. If I have the time and patience I might actually do a blog post on this and look at the actual percentages.
As for Peja choking in the playoffs (re: stormsurge)... eh, whatever. I know he struggled some with the Kings, but Im still confident in Pejas ability to deliver in the playoffs... as long as Bruce Bowen isn't guarding him. Peja's total three-point percentage from last year's playoffs - 54.9%! That's amazing. If he hadn't struggled being guarded by Bowen it would be even higher.
Regardless, even if Peja is not hitting, him just being on the floor is very important.
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bigindian15
03/23/09 11:04 AM
@Ronjohn: where do you suggest we get a younger 3 point shooter for the rest of the season?
Don Nelson might be training a new replacement, like he did with Avery Johnson in Dallas. I mean, that worked out great and all :D
Question: has Tyson played in any of our games against Denver? It seems like he's always out against them for various reasons...
#15
Niall Doherty
03/23/09 12:40 PM
@ bigindian: Nope, he's missed all three games against Denver so far this season.
@ 420ftJesus: I'm not sure if those exact numbers are correct, but I can tell you that nobody is worried about attendance here anymore. I haven't heard anything about new attendance goals. They aren't really needed imo.
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Mikey
03/23/09 02:31 PM
@ Niall: New attendance benchmarks are not needed, unless they move a huge part of the Hornets roster as a cost-cutting move in the offseason.
#17
420ftJesus
03/23/09 04:25 PM
You have to remember that the attendance goal for the Hornets is approximately a 2 year goal for 2008 -2010, but did not involve
1) any preseason games
2) any postseason games
3) any games before December 1, 2008
So it's hard to glance at the attendance numbers and read the numbers right off, especially since the worst attendance was culled out by clause 3.
But, as I'd said, it was rightly overlooked as attendance has clearly been no issue, but I figured I mentioned it since I've quietly tracking this for 15 months.
It's also nice when things are locked in, at least for people as distrustful of Le Homme as I am.
Regarding the new attendance goals:
http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=526741
There is reference to a new 2 year period in the article.
I really didn't think attendance goals would hang over our heads forever, so I'm hoping this is referring to some state money incentives, and not an escape clause.
Of course, if you're meeting the goal, it's not a problem, but we're one groin injury away, one trade away, from some badness with those numbers in there.
Again, it's nice when things are locked in, at least for people as distrustful of Le Homme as I am.
#18
Mark
03/23/09 09:33 PM
I'm really happy to see Hornets fans pack the arena night in and night out. That definitely deserves to be noted, especially considering our abysmal attendance before the All*Star last year, even when we were cruising. I still recall watching highlights of an empty arena.
Never again!
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chefcdb
03/23/09 10:43 PM
@PejaVu
I'm talking about managing Peja's minutes so he can even play effectively in the playoffs, not writing in stone that Juju should remain the starter forever.
I would much rather see Peja play with the 2nd unit than see Chris Paul run with the second team, but if you'll slow down to read carefully, I would have Peja rotate back to stretch the floor w/ the starters in the 4th. Honestly, so long as we don't ride Peja too hard, which we shouldn't do because we can switch Mo Pete for similar effectiveness and let Mo rid his game of some rust, I'm cool. Until we get to the playoffs, we need to bring both Mo Pete and Peja back into the mix, and we need to keep letting Juju get quality minutes.
Playoff basketball is all about matchups, although a team has to go with the ones that brung 'em there. It's all about countering what evolves on the court during a series. Last year vs the Spurs, Pop realized that "karate Chop" Bowen couldn't guard CP after the 1st two games in N.O., but he could bug Peja to death w/the ol' Karate guy. The Rockets do the same thing to Peja with Battier and now Artest. In the last game vs the Spaceships, Battier really bothered Butler all game, even making Rasual's entry passes to DX a big problem, all because we had no Peja.
The key last year was when the Spurs shut Peja down, we had no real deep option besides Mo Pete. Now we have Poz and Butler who can hit 3s, so if the D concentrates on Peja, they can get free looks. We truly need Peja because he commands the most respect from our 3 pt shooters, but in an athletic matchup like with Denver, Juju definitely will help us in many ways and he has earned good minutes to keep his groove going. Wanna go small with Denver? Let Julian check Carmelo and DX bang w/ Nene. The same goes with the Jazz, let DX guard Boozer/Millsaps and have Juju chase Okur off the 3 pt line and double Okur if he posts up.
My point is don't burn up Peja now, and let's build some confidence in the 2nd team, which will get help from Mo Pete joining them. If Peja can float between units, I think we might get the most bang for his game, and just try to make sure he's healthy once the playoffs are on.
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StefanC
03/24/09 12:46 AM
UPDATE:
Blazers and Denver both lost tonight!
#21
djtoneyblare
03/24/09 12:37 PM
Smart coaches their Defense.
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