The Hornets lost again tonight in rather embarassing fashion as the Lakers took it to them early, and then never let them threaten again. Blowouts appear to be the norm this season for opponents of the Hornets. Good times. Good times. For them. Now, you can say "But it's the Lakers!" but both Pau Gasol and Andrew Bynum were out and the Hornets still didn't look like they belonged on the court.
The first play of the game was indicative: Kobe Bryant strips Devin Brown and takes it in for a dunk. If any of you were surprised by that, you haven't watched the Hornets the last 12 months. Observations - such as they are:
- Chris Paul didn't have an other-worldly shooting night for the first time this season, and it made it even more apparent how poorly the rest of this team is playing. Paul still did alright with 15 points and 9 dimes, but he rode the pine for a lot of the fourth as the game was over by halftime.
- Devin Brown wasn't shy in creating contact with Kobe. Unfortunately, he didn't really make Kobe's life any harder - or deny him the shots he wanted. That's one thing you should take away from tonight. If you took a look at the tape and analyzed the plays, you will see the Hornets do a solid job of contesting shots. They are there, with a hand in the Laker's faces for a lot of the shots. The problem is that those are the shots the Lakers want. The Hornets don't take away offensive options - they merely contest shots when they are taken. That's a recipe for disaster.
- The best part of the game tonight was the 4th quarter, when the team started running. If Byron wants his team to get out and run like he's claimed over and over and over, he needs to put in players who CAN run. Collison's speed and decision making on the break is in another league from Bobby Brown's - and he was great in the open floor with Thornton and Julian filling the wings in the last quarter.
- David West has always been bothered by Lamar Odom. His best work against the Lakers has always been with Pau Gasol on him - but like I've said a thousand times before, he can't score on fast, long defenders. Tonight, he pretty much settled for the mid-range jumper all night. There's a reason why the mid-range jumper is a bit of a lost art. It ain't efficient. 4-11 for 11 points. And 4 rebounds.
- Julian Wright had four layups that bounced off his fingers, and he was bailed out on one of his "fast breaks" where he continued to push one on two. I'm not sure which is worse for me right now - watching someone in a Hornet's uniform take a three point shot, or Julian trying to handle the ball. Both are more likely to end poorly than not.
- Okafor had a nice game, including two vicious dunks on post moves. I'd like to be happy about that, but he was being guarded by DJ Mbenga and Josh Powell. Yeah, that does kinda take the shine off of things.
So . . . that's about it about the game. I do want to say one other thing before heading off to sleep. If you went back and looked at the past posts on this blog, you'll find me defending Byron Scott a lot. I like a lot of things Byron does, and I like a lot of his philosophies. Tonight, however, the scales tipped for me. My level of frustration about his decisions this season has passed "open-mouthed in disbelief" and reached "weeping blood". I don't even know what to say at this point.
Clippers are tomorrow night. Maybe our guys can avoid a blowout.
UPDATE: Video highlights from NBA.com:
Also be sure to check out Mr. Kennedy's Hornets-Lakers report in our Journals section.


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Mr. Kennedy
11/09/09 12:00 AM
Great recap. At this point, all I have to say is: Could we be seeing in the headlines come December/early January: "Scott fired as Hornets head coach"????
#1
GoDallas
11/09/09 12:27 AM
You can't possibly lose to the Clippers can you?
#2
BeesGivingEffort
11/09/09 12:36 AM
Man, this team looks like it has already lost the second it steps on the floor. It's depressing that they seem to be at such a loss just 7 games into the season.
The rooks flat dominated in garbage time tonight. It wasn't even close. In fact, alot of the crap plays in the 4th came from our starting SF.
I'm already done with JuJu. In fact, I think JuJu embodies the whole philosophy of this team right now and maybe his starting has A LOT to do with why the hell we're so lost. He either needs to play basketball or ride the pine for the rest of the season. Put Peja back in the starting lineup, start marcus thornton. Run out a Collison/B.Brown/Posey/Diogu/Song bench and let them figure it out.
This attitude they have is complete bunk and it's time to let someone provide a spark and bring some swagger and actual offensive basketball skill back to the court instead of hoping some super athlete can figure out how to be functional on offense on top of defense.
Yeah I know we can't run Peja and Posey too hard cause their old and all but am i the only one that notices JuJu looks like complete garbage, doesn't belong anywhere near the starting lineup, and consequently the team looks and acts like they are playing 4 on 5 (That's counting Devin Brown as number 4, which is a whole different matter)? I'm being dead serious when I say I don't know if I've seen a starter this bad. Back it up with defensive efficiency and whatever you want, but I don't understand how you can be a starter in the NBA and not even know how YOURSELF plays basketball. Even the garbage players know they are garbage and how to maximize their garbage potentials.
This is frustrating. The only way this thing gets turned around is if the NBA decides to turn basketball into a 3v3 sport or Byron Scott rolls the dice and gets out of the way of his own damn ego (and honestly, basketball coaching IQ).
Hey, maybe we just fire Coach Scott and proclaim CP3 the new coach. I 100% feel we'd be a better team if that happened.
#3
BeesGivingEffort
11/09/09 12:41 AM
BTW I have not given up hope as I feel this thing can get turned around. We have way to much basketball talent on our team to not make some sort of run eventually and maybe that will spark the belief this team is actually capable, as that's all that's really missing. Never underestimate mental attitude in sports...
#4
bigindian15
11/09/09 12:48 AM
Maybe there's a reason Juju didn't get any minutes until the owner demanded it...
Byron Scott needs to go. And just to piss him off, we should find a way to get either Eddie Jordan or Lawrence Frank as his replacement
#5
Tony
11/09/09 12:55 AM
Do ya'll really think firing Scott is going to help the team? Straight up denial, firing a coach is always the first sign of a bad team. Like, which asistant coach do you guys think is going to get the Hornets back into the playoffs? Think they're going to spend money this season on another marquee name when they are obviously lacking talent?
The Hornets just straight up have dropped the ball for two seasons. Last year they outbid themselves for Posey and locked him in for four years, this year they obviously have no money and did nothing to improve the team. Firing Byron is nopt going to change the fact that this team does not have top 8 talent in the West, they have hasbeens and CP3, West and Okafor.
I want to know Ryan, do you really blame all of this on attitude and Scott? If so you need to take your blinders off and compare you're starting 5 to the rest of the leagues and see if you actually think they stack up. I think its irresponsible as fans to not point out the obvious lack of effort/funds on the side of the organization to put talent around one of the best players in the league.
Tonight it was
Fisher
Bryant
Artest
Odom
MBenga
tommorow
Davis(the guy that jumped ship as soon as possible, wonder why?)
Gordon
Butler(given away for cash)
Camby
Kaman
positions 2 and 3 are an automatic loss for the Hornets night in and night out, hows a team supposed to win like that? Hell West isn't even that great, he plays the easiest position to fill in the entire league, I'd say he isn't even the best 4 on the floor half the games they play.
#6
Mark
11/09/09 01:05 AM
Tony: Coach Scott has been rather inflexible for seasons now. While I admit our team doesn't have the necessary firepower of a championship team (most our players have major exploitable weaknesses), the fact that we haven't done anything to address it speaks volumes.
From my standpoint, it doesn't even look like he's trying anything to improve the situation, which is beyond frustrating. I've never esteemed coach Scott since his Jersey days, so why change now when he hasn't changed, right?
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Tony
11/09/09 01:15 AM
I don't know I mean, it was only last year that things started to go south. The Hornets kind of depended on Peja to keep up his form from the 2008 playoff sason when he hadn't been healthy for like 3 or 4 years before that and hasn't been healthy since, and every year is just another year older for him, he had his prime year about 8 years ago already, what are they expecting out of him?
People talk about Byrons departure from the Nets negleting the fact that they declined every year for years after he was gone and now they've hit the bottom. Bad management creates bad situations. I think the Hornets have a bad attitude because they know they don't have a team that can compete. Losing always makes things worse, of course the Hornets body language is bad. Find me any team off to a 2-5 start that looks happy and I'll tell you THATS the team that doesn't care.
#8
GoDallas
11/09/09 02:03 AM
Last year the Mavs started 2-9 and got 50 wins. It can be done.
#9
saZam
11/09/09 03:29 AM
What I liked about this game was when thorton and collison came in and tore it up against the lakers backups! They actually played with intensity like they wanted to play basketball or something...
#10
YoungFella
11/09/09 05:11 AM
"New Orleans Hornets to make another lineup change: Peja Stojakovic to start tonight replacing Julian Wright vs. L.A. Clippers"
If I were Byron Scott I would not play Julian Wright again. He'd move instantly to last in our rotation and would not see the court. Hell, I might not even let him dress.
#11
Niall Doherty
11/09/09 08:44 AM
Byron deserves credit for giving Julian Wright a fair shake. Everyone wanted to see him get more minutes, and Byron delivered by throwing him in the starting lineup. But yeah, JuJu has failed miserably. I'm all for letting guys play through their mistakes, but it's hard to justify keeping Wright in the starting lineup at this stage. His drives to the basket have frequently led to turnovers, he can't stretch the defense because he can't shoot, and I haven't seen much from him defensively. It will be nice to see Peja starting again tonight.
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BeeDogg
11/09/09 09:03 AM
Excellent points Tony...
NJ has only gotten worse. Scott is not the problem...but I do believe at this point he has nothing to lose by playing the rookies and shaking it up. I think he made concessions to the owner by playing JuJu when he clearly did not want to...and look what happened. We all hoped that he would "get it" and make this team more athletic.... It is apparent without a trade we are doomed, I suggest we make some big moves to free up some space for next year at whatever cost to keep Paul. (I would resign Byron too...Paul loves him) He knows its talent and effort....not coach. I hate to say it, but I would Move David West at this point. I am ready to throw the towel in to clear contracts quickly. Anyway we can get NJ to take West, Posey, Mopete (20 mil) for Bobby Simmons, Tony Battie (18 mil) and a 1st round pick? it works.....we get to the cap, leaves us only 1 year and a half from new beginning when peja and his 14 million will be ours to play with. We could just let he young guys run till then.....Songalia can fill the void till then at the 4. I'm so bummed...but want to see cp3 stay here with B scott....we need to firesale now and regroup.
#13
LSUhornet17
11/09/09 09:25 AM
Scott will not be the Hornets coach next year, and might not even last this whole season.
Now some optimistic points:
-Rookies looked great in limited burn against the Laker scrubs and Morrisson's mustache.
-Posey looked more active on D than I've seen at any other time this year. I guess he gets a little fired up that Scott thinks he could actually guard Kobe. He was pretty pestering and poked the ball free a few times.
-Devin rattled in a couple of his line drive 3 balls and looked halfway decent on defense. IT may have been just because I was paying attention more, but I think he did better than Mo had in any other game this season.
-Okafor had two nice dunks (okay I'm stretching now).
-Um, did I mention the rookies?
#14
LSUhornet17
11/09/09 09:26 AM
@goDallas
Thanks for the words of encouragement. Have we looked that crappy, that fans of other teams feel the need to console us? haha
#15
LSUhornet17
11/09/09 10:02 AM
In a game in which both Bynum and Gasol are out, I'm looking for much more from Okafor than playing DJ Mbenga to a standstill. Dude, step it up. It's DJ Mbenga and Josh Powell. We knew DWest can't score on Khlomar, but Okafor needs make up for that in this one, and didn't.
#16
ticktock6
11/09/09 10:30 AM
Re: Okafor, it's not even true he had a bad game. Rather, isn't this the second game in a row he was a beast in the first half only to disappear in the second half? That's sort of a different problem than if he wasn't showing up at all. He had like 8 boards in the first quarter, what happened to that? Come to think of it, if anyone one on the team felt like showing up for the third quarter that would be great...
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corndeaux
11/09/09 11:12 AM
scott is not coming back and he probably wont make it to christmas. i know our talent is below average, but does anyone think we've gotten a $5 million coaching job from him the last year and half?
juju looked terrible last night. but go back and look at the first few games of the season- he played well in spurts and was making strides. next thing you know, bbrown is playing crunchtime minutes on defense against the celtics. he's the only guy rebounding against the raptors, yet the coach plays mopete, peja, and posey together on the wing. juju gets the first 6-7 minutes of each half and then sits, regardless of how he's playing or the matchups of the game. you wonder why he looks lost? his minutes get jerked around and he has no idea what his coach wants from him.
#18
Niall Doherty
11/09/09 11:50 AM
I'd like to agree with you about JuJu, corndeaux, but the mistakes I've seen from him recently can't be blamed on him not knowing his role. He's been making poor decisions out there and making wild drives to the basket, losing the ball out of bounds.
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TheRonin
11/09/09 12:07 PM
I don't know about Byron. I don't think he is such a bad coach that we need to dump him mid season. I think his skills are more of a manager of talent, and he knows that fact. I believe he would be the father that would explain to his child on dry land how swimming works in great detail, then chuck his @ss in the water and say "Swim Mo-Fo!" However, if the child knew how to swim already he could get the most out of his talent.
What really concerns me, taking the swimming analogy to it's limits, is that now he appears to be the father that won't even jump in after the drowning child. The move with moving Peja to the starting lineup along with publicly acknowledging that the rooks performance is forcing him to do something with them is encouraging.
Maybe he was just trying to show the forces that be, "don't tell me how to coach or this is what you will get." If so, and he and the guys who want to give effort can pull this team out of the doldrums, he deserves to get the extension and the Shinns need to take a hands off approach to the coaching of the team. If not, he needs to go.
#20
BeesGivingEffort
11/09/09 12:28 PM
I think the fact that our team already appears to have flagged it in is telling enough about Byron Scott as a coach.
#21
commentcava
11/09/09 01:06 PM
I think Byron Scott made Juju into what he is today. He's all up in his head. He's replaced playing basketball and having fun with thinking too much and fear of messing up. He'll do that to any young player who isn't chris paul. That's Byron's biggest problem.
Yeah, we have talent issues, but we also have coaching problems. We can only fix one of those right now. (provided we don't get a worse coach, which is always a risk) In short, I want a coach that can foster young players and build a scheme around the players we have, maximizing the individual's talents. Hell, that's the definition of "coach." I don't want a coach who can't work with young people and who repeatedly tries to force square pegs into round holes.
#22
corndeaux
11/09/09 01:15 PM
i was wrong. it wasnt the toronto game from my earlier post. it was dallas where juju was rebounding everything.
#23
Mikey
11/09/09 01:18 PM
I said this during the preseason, and I still stand by it. The Hornets play 30 games from the end of October to New Years. If they are .500 by that time, I'm the happiest person on the face of the Earth. I have circled the MLK matinee game against the Spurs in red on my fridge-magnet calendar. That's the game I'm Hoping the Hornets can put a consistent, 48-minute effort on the court. If the Hornets are still getting blown out by 16 points or more then, there are serious problems. If they are .500, or just below it, by New Years, I think the Hornets still have a reasonable chance of making the playoffs as a 5-8 seed.
#24
LSUhornet17
11/09/09 01:54 PM
@ticktock6
You're right he didn't get nearly as many touches in the second half. I'm wondering if keeping him out there with the second unit (well mainly just when CP is out) would be a better option than Peja or DWest. Bobby isn't going to create shots and West hasn't looked like himself for much of the season. Or maybe we can just give him the ball more when he is feeling it. He did only play 27 minutes last night so I'm thinking that's a good reason for the disparity of the first to second half. I don't think he was in there that long in the second.
#25
Chung
11/09/09 03:34 PM
When the Hornets traded Rasual Butler to the Clippers, it was seen as a salary dump. I was going to give the hornets the benefit of the doubt there for the time being because of the good moves of Diogu and Okafor. Maybe they saw something out of Mopete or JuJu over the summer that I couldn't? Mopete hasn't justified that move, to say the least. He's shot 35% for the season, and most of them are open jumpers
#26
MaxALM
11/09/09 04:22 PM
Byron needs to quit his stubborn act and just admit that Marcus Thornton should start at SG. He needs to admit to himself that he has been wrong to settle with "satisfactorily stable" veteran players and TAKE A RISK.
All this team needs right now is a spark, and I am convinced that Thornton is the answer. The PT he and Collison were given last night was by far the best part of the game to watch (as a Hornets fan). Yes, they were playing against other reserves, but are you kidding me? Those two and Wright were forcing turnovers, playing with incredible high-octane energy, running up and down the court, executing well (except for Wright's bogus alley-oop pass to Collison...????).
Stop saving face, Byron, and let your trash veteran SGs live with the fact that our rookie 2nd round pick has more talent than both of them combined. GO MARCUS!
#27
MaxALM
11/09/09 04:29 PM
also, Collison is a much better decision-maker than Bobby Brown. and he creates plays for his teammates. He's going to be special. and I'm not hatin on B Brown, I like him. But is Byron really going to let Brown continue to chuck 3s and lose himself on defense?
And Julian Wright will come around. He plays well when he doesn't get all tripped up with is decisions.
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