Yeah, that tanking talk was way premature.
Two days after slaying the best team in the Western Conference, the Hornets took down the beasts of the East, putting together four solid quarters of basketball to topple the visiting Atlanta Hawks, 96-88 ( box | recap ).
A microcosm of this game came with about 1:30 left in the fourth quarter. The Hawks went inside out to get Jamal Crawford an open corner three, cutting the Hornets lead to six points. Darren Collison came down court and, as he'd done several times already in the game, got a high screen on the right side from one of his big men (Emeka Okafor on this occasion) then dribbled middle towards the paint. Atlanta had dropped a help defender from the far wing on that same play twice in the fourth quarter, and had twice been burned by Collison dishing out for open triples. This time the Hawks stayed home so Collison continued into the lane, getting halfway down, drawing the help D, and remaining calm to find David West for an open baseline J. West missed, but Marcus Thornton had sneaked in under the basket from the right corner and was able to tip the rebound up and away from Josh Smith. Al Horford looked to have position to grab the ball out of the air, but Okafor took a swipe and batted it back over to Thornton, who wasted no time in getting a shot up. Horford would get a hand on that attempt, but was rightfully called for a goaltend. 1:10 left, Hornets by 8, and the crowd on its feet.
A lot to love on that play: the defense spread by the shooters; Collison making good decisions and exploiting the gaps; Okafor setting a solid pick, rolling nicely and positioning himself well for a chance at the rebound; Thornton getting in among the trees, battling and getting two more points any way he could.
All good things, and justly rewarded. It's been bundles of fun watching the Hornets these past few games.
On to some notes...
Darren Collison
The final numbers for Collison tonight: 22 points, 8-13 FGs, 11 assists, 5 turnovers. He showed blinding speed several times, finished well at the rim, delivered that usual pesky defense and even knocked down both his three-point attempts. The kid is showing amazing poise and confidence running the offense; very little hesitation from him. I wonder how much of what we're seeing is just Collison being Collison, and how much is Chris Paul's influence and tutoring.
Interestingly, a lot of Collison's turnovers and other mistakes in this one involved Peja Stojakovic. Collison was mostly at fault each time, repeatedly misjudging where Peja was on the floor. But those are issues that should be easy to correct.
Marcus Thornton
Thornton scored 21 points tonight, and he got them every which way. He was cutting back door, taking guys off the dribble, finishing on the break, shaking loose for a corner three, spotting up on the wing, abusing Jeff Teague in the post, absorbing contact and still finishing. He even scored while on defense in the second quarter; it's like he can't help but put the ball in the basket.
What I find most impressive about Thornton offensively is the economy of effort. He rarely wastes a dribble or a step. Every move has a purpose.
The only thing I've yet to really see from him is a mid-range game, but I'm not about to complain.
Three-point shooting
Peja picked up where he left off against Phoenix, draining four threes in the space of two minutes in the first quarter. The Hornets were having a hard time getting their offense going, but that barrage opened the game up. Noteworthy that the first three of those shots by Peja came off the break or on broken plays. The last one came from a beautiful set play involving multiple screens and some misdirection by the Hornets, resulting in Peja springing free for a wide open look up top.
The Hornets would finish the game 12-of-17 from deep, with most of those attempts being open looks. It's amazing what happens when you cut down on the pounding and get that ball zipping around.
Defense
The Hawks got very few easy baskets in this one. Save for a few minutes before halftime, the Hornets did a great job getting back in transition and slowing the Atlanta break. Some open looks were allowed on the perimeter, which would seem to be by design since the Hawks have not proven to be a serious threat from deep. The Hornets also fouled smart in this one, making the Hawks earn points at the free throw line rather than give up dunks or layups.
Devin Brown, Marcus Thornton and James Posey took turns defending Joe Johnson (who finished with 14 points on 6-18 shooting), and the Hornets usually sent a big man to help when Johnson caught the ball in the post. In fact, the Hornets frequently doubled on the low block no matter which Hawk had the ball there. The defensive rotations off of those doubles were effective for the most part.
Emeka Okafor hasn't been as much of an offensive force for the Hornets lately, but he seems to be becoming much more comfortable defensively, rarely getting caught out of position and offering good help to challenge drives to the basket.
Hawks off-night
The Hornets played great tonight, but I'll be fair and admit that we didn't see the Hawks at their best. They were coming off a hard-fought win over the Rockets last night, and they just didn't look anything like a team with the best record in the NBA. Losing Bibby to that ankle injury obviously hurt them, too. Jeff Teague could only deliver five unimpressive minutes at the point, and Jamal Crawford isn't much of a quarterback.
That said, the Hawks were 3-0 in segababas before tonight.
No opponent runs
The Hornets have built early leads these past two games, and they've refused to relinquish them, answering each and every run by the Suns and Hawks. That shows excellent resolve by the players, as well as smart substitutions and use of timeouts by the coaching staff.
Case in point: the Hornets bigs on the floor early in the fourth quarter were Darius Songaila and Hilton Armstrong; two guys not exactly known for their rebounding and interior defense. The Hawks seemed to recognize this and chipped away at the lead with scores inside from Zaza Pachulia and Marvin Williams. With 7:05 left, Pachulia grabbed an offensive rebound from Hilton and was fouled on the put-back attempt. By the time he'd canned the two free throws, David West and Emeka Okafor were back in the game.
A few bullets to finish:
- The Suns average 111.3ppg, but the Hornets held them to 103 points on Thursday. The Hawks average 108ppg, but scored just 88 tonight, their second-lowest output of the season.
- A poor offensive showing for Devin Brown in this one, but he helped in other areas. One thing about him though: more than any other Hornet, he's prone to pounding the rock and killing the ball movement.
- A 6-of-20 shooting night for David West, including a number of point-blank misses once again. Great effort and help defense from him tonight though.
- Thornton's averages the last five games: 16.8 points on 51 percent shooting.
- Collison's averages the last five games: 15.4 points, 5.6 assists, 2.4 turnovers, 1.2 steals.
- Games since Byron Scott was fired: five.
UPDATE: Video highights:
UPDATE 2: Post-game press conference:


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ticktock6
11/22/09 12:16 AM
Oh excellent. Anyone who asks why I have nicknamed Thornton "Lil Buckets" can in future be referred to that paragraph, and we'll all be happy.
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TheRonin
11/22/09 12:42 AM
REBOUNDS!!!! Only a differential of -3 for the game against the number 9 rebounding team after crushing the number 11 team... Would have been -2 if Thornton would get credit for the defensive tip for the score instead of Williams. LOL
Definately not your father's hornets... well if your daddy is Byron Scott.
Niall -- "David West...Great effort and help defense from him tonight though.": any and all statements like this need to be prefaced with "for David West," as what qualifies as great effort and help defense for him would get most other players yelled at or some pine-time. Have you guys noticed just how half the game he could be growing moss on the offensive side. Then other times he is moving and working. He just makes me so sad. I want him to be better as I know he has it in him if he just would not be so lethargic when he feels like doing so. I can just see him taking his ball and going home when things didn't go his way as a kid.
Ok, back from my dark place...
Just good stuff all around. Now we will see how they play with short rest and on the road. I will be ecstatic if they just stay close and keep the hustle numbers up.
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LSUhornet17
11/22/09 12:44 AM
Great win, the improvement on both sides of the ball seems extraordinary. I missed this one and am seriously regretting my commitment to go a college football game (50 degrees and constant rain). I wonder if any of the media people will admit the Hornets made the right move with replacing Scott. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say no.
Niall were they were posting Thornton when Teague was on him or was he taking him off the dribble? Him posting up would be a new wrinkle. Didn't see much of that in his two years at LSU.
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nikkoewan
11/22/09 12:51 AM
Im so jealous!! I want to watch the Suns game and the Hawks game but their are no available livestreams and or torrent downloads. NOO. anyway...
its so unfair to marcus thornton that he only has a 55+ ratin in 2k10(LOL). I really can't use him their. unlike the REAL marcus thornton, who's eating people with his energy and efficiency. I mean his game translates well to the NBA( low turnover, very efficient scorer). many were scared for his size, but that doesnt seem to hinder him.
collison is just what i expected. pesky defender, high basketball IQ.
i want to watch this team win!! no fair!! ROFL
congrats to us guys!
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TheRonin
11/22/09 12:59 AM
nikkoewan -- collison observations: Great call. My fiance and I were just commenting tonight how it is like watching a college guard on the defensive side of the floor. How often to you see a guy broken down buzzing around his man full court like DC every damn play. Just inspiring to see a guy who doesn't change his game in a negative way when he enters the pros. I am sure that will change as he ages and just doesn't have the energy to full court press a guy every play, but man that is sweet to see how it gets in the opponents heads.
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nikkoewan
11/22/09 01:04 AM
@TheRonin - yeah. I remember watching him in a UCLA game. Damn. He full courts the PG every time. He can sustain that possibly until his 28, if he contiues to be a backup to CP3 for all eternity. I mean CP3 - Collison point guard combination can be very difficult to blow by for at least 5 years haha
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berlinhornets
11/22/09 06:28 AM
I loved last nights game. I am not too sure Byron Scott will get a new job too soon again. Shouldnt the play of rookies discredit his whole coaching? who wants a coach that destroys the future of your franchise. He stole JuJu mojo. He definitly had some of that in his rookie season - I still hope it comes back.
Collison is the perfect apprentice to CP3. I have to agree, itll be amazing to see these two grow up together and inflict havoc on the backcourts of the league. I just hope cp's return wont hamper collisons progress too much.
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corndeaux
11/22/09 07:17 AM
it was a lot easier to criticize dwest last season. right now i could care less if he's missing bunnies or is still not an all nba defender- news flash he never will be. bunnies will drop and he is working his butt off on defense and the boards. he is playing with passion right now and is so much more active on both ends of the floor. he had to be the leader the team needed w/o cp3 and he has answered the challenge so far- despite his foul troubles.
yes, it is only 2 games and it does not guarantee anything, but the whole team is just playing their hearts out right now- even posey came back to life tonight. they seem to be inspired by the energy of the rookies and a coaching staff that actually, you know, coaches. it looks like this team is starting to find an identity.
it will be real interesting to see how long they can sustain this energy, starting tonight with a tough back to back.
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Niall Doherty
11/22/09 09:05 AM
@ LSUhornet: I can only recall Thornton posting up twice, but it's something the Hornets can definitely exploit when a point guard is guarding him.
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otherMark
11/22/09 10:38 AM
Last night was awesome. I didn't see anything in the way of rookie mistakes, the only mistakes I remember looked like the result of the whole team learning new offensive and defensive sets in the middle of the game. (I'm talking about the two times Collison stole the ball from Peja, and the defensive possession that looked like they were reinventing zone defense on the spot.) Several 24-second violations were forced on the Hawks, which is so hot. I also noticed a few possessions where Joe Johnson simply could not shake Collison, and that's a man who knows how to get open. He would spin, crossover, come off screens, and the Little Mermaid would already be there up in his chest. Now he was still able to shoot right over him, but that's nothing new for us.
DWest was being guarded by the longest, meanest shot-blocker in the game, so I'm thrilled that he was able to get the points he did, and contribute so much on the boards and on D. Four blocks and 10 rebounds isn't too bad.
Bobby Brown can jump really, really high. He looked like that alley-oop was easy, and that he could have gone higher if he wanted to. He and Thornton and Collison are all extraordinarily fast, and Thornton is a straight-up bully!
I'm excited for the rest of the season, and am pleased with Bower so far, if only for letting the new guys show what they can do. It's also more fun to win when you aren't expected to.
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hio1515
11/22/09 10:44 AM
I know DWest was struggling before Chris Paul went out, but couldn't we put some of his struggle on cp's injury? Seems like he is double every time he gets the ball instead of just most of the time he gets the ball. Seems like teams are daring Collison, Brown, and Peja to beat them and so far it is working for us.
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stormsurge
11/22/09 11:50 AM
I want to point out that Armstrong was a) not bad and b) fighting the winning battle underneath last night.
If you told me before the game that was going to happen, I would look at you with pity in my eyes.
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Mark
11/22/09 12:02 PM
These rookies embody what I've been saying. I don't mind if we lose as long as we're giving it our all.
I will be going to NOLA for a game this week. Sad CP probably is sitting out, but I'm looking forward to it.
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BeesGivingEffort
11/22/09 12:04 PM
I gotta ask, why did the Hornets pulling the plug article surface just an hour ago on the rumor mill?
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downtowndave78
11/22/09 12:06 PM
Great job Hornets...they are looking great!
And....we'll only get better.
D West will gain his shot again, and as long as his D continues on this level we will have our second All Star on the team .
Omeka is finding his defensive role in our system, so we will now begin to see his offense improve as the season continues.
The rookies get better every game.
CP3 will be back to lead a more confident team.
It is great having the Hornets playing some ball again. GEAUX HORNETS!
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