Jeff Bower has said this team needs to run more.
After watching his team get outscored on the break 22 to 8 in a closer-than-expected 96-94 home win against the Sacramento Kings, I have to say I agree with him.
Bower’s got two young thoroughbred rookies, Marcus Thornton and Darren Collison, whose main attributes (speed, athleticism and finishing around the bucket) lend themselves to a fast-paced game. He’s got the best possible asset in a fast-paced offense he could have in Chris Paul (who converted his two first-half steals into Hornets points on his way to a typical Paul stat line – 15 points, 12 assists, 3 steals). He’s got what amounts to a couple of useless defenders in Peja Stojakovic and James Posey (and David West, depending on who you talk to, is no All-Star on defense either). So why not run more and aim for a Phoenix Suns kind of mentality?
As is usually the case with the Hornets, the answer is not a simple one.
For one thing, the first argument that comes to mind is, why fix what isn’t broken? After all, the team is playing much better lately, and they even put up 96 points tonight in a comeback win. Emeka Okafor is looking better on the pick and roll, the team is running a varied offense that produces open looks, and even Peja stepped up tonight and hit some set jumpers, which as we all know, doesn’t always happen unless he’s feeling a rhythm.
To all of that I would respond, when has this offense over the past two seasons ever felt really effective? Moreover, it’s one thing to be playing better, it’s another thing altogether to be a playoff team. I agree with the notion that this team has improved to the point that it is competitive again. I also agree with the thought that this team has the potential to go on a run at some point and put some wins together. I just think there’s a difference between having the potential to do something, and actually doing it. This team looks like one that is good enough to win at home. Maybe steal a couple on the road. Lose to the better teams on the schedule. And there you go.
Normally that would be enough (especially if the team played in the East). But given the hole this team dug for itself, that isn’t going to get them where they want to go (playoffs). Instead, it will get them 35-40 wins and poor lottery position. Now like I said before, this team has the potential to do better, but we just haven’t seen any indication that they will. Any switch in team philosophy at this point may be worth a try … for the simple fact it isn’t status quo, which just isn’t working quite well enough right now.
Now, I don’t see the fast break being a magical elixir here, because the team is poorly assembled. Some of these pieces just don’t fit that mentality (West, in particular, would have a tough time going full-speed all the time, I think). But I do believe this team could be more than adequate at pushing the ball (and consequently more effective on offense than they are at present), and I say this for the following reasons:
- Chris Paul. When your best player, a top five player in the league, is most effective in the open court (he’ll always be at his best penetrating and dishing it off), you should probably play to his strengths. Moreover, you should also probably build your team around him (and by probably, I mean definitely). If other guys aren’t up to the challenge, replace them. It’s as simple as that.
- Peja can once again become a valued member of the team. He may be a great locker-room presence, and he might be a fan favorite, but Stojakovic is so bad on defense that he has to be scoring on offense or he is a complete and utter liability. We can debate from now until eternity whether the team needs to be getting a return on its investment with him or not, but I say if the $14 million man can hit some shots for you (still one of the only guys on the roster you can say that about), why not take advantage of that and give him more opportunities within his comfort zone? His 14 points tonight just weren’t enough.
- Devin Brown, Marcus Thornton and Darren Collison are better in the paint than outside of it (a combined 1-for-5 from long range tonight). The stats will vacillate on this some, and it could be a moot argument in another few weeks (or even days), but my eyes simply tell me these guys are more comfortable driving to the hoop than they are spotting up from three. With Peja, West, and to a lesser degree Posey (a much lesser degree) available to set up shop on the wings, these guys will be freer to penetrate in a fast-paced game.
- Okafor’s hands are made of stone. Dipped in lead. Stone hands, dipped in lead. But that isn’t conducive to him being a true asset on offense regardless of whether the team is slowing it down OR speeding it up. I think you get more value out of him on the break: the guy can move around okay, and he’s the kind of guy who can initiate a break with his blocks and/or rebounds on defense (12 boards and 4 blocks tonight).
- Taking advantage of Julian Wright’s athleticism. Say what you want about his offensive game and lack of understanding of the playbook, the kid is still long, lean, quick and can jump out of the gym. I say if you can’t out-execute ‘em, out-athlete ‘em (and right now, JuJu is only rotting away on the bench anyway).
Again, this isn’t a cure-all. But this IS the best offense available for your best player. And whether you’re thinking long-term rebuilding or short-term playoff run, it makes tremendous sense to me that the Hornets start catering to him, sooner rather than later.
Other observations:
- Hornets up 88-85, 3:25 left, and Darius Songaila draws an offensive foul on Jason Thompson, who had checked back into the game a few seconds earlier. It was foul No. 6 on Thompson, the Kings’ second-leading scorer with 20 points, and it was one of those little hustle plays that can make a big difference between winning and losing … especially in a 2-point ball game.
- Mark Cuban in the wrestling ring, and now wrestling schlock, in the form of “The King”, in the basketball arena. For a sport trying to dodge allegations of fixed games and scripts being followed, it might be a wiser course of action for the NBA to distance itself from pro wrestling as much as humanly possible. Just a thought.
- Tyreke Evans isn’t just going to be good, he’s already good. Paul never really went off in this game, thanks in part to the long Evans guarding him most of the night. More impressively, he made some tremendous plays on offense (after leaving the game briefly in the first half with an injury to his face). His pretty floater at the 9:00 mark of the third quarter probably made Collison jealous. He followed with an amazing finish with under 2:00 to play and his team down 91-90. He then tied it up with :30 to go as well. His last miss, which could have tied it, will be discussed largely, but color this observer impressed with his overall night (25 points, 9 assists, 5 rebounds).
- Marcus Thornton played more minutes than Devin Brown tonight (22:47 to 20:43). I will be quite pleased should this become a trend.
- The officials in the game (Bob Delaney, Curtis Blair and Eric Lewis) were comically joined at the hip with the rulebook in the first half. To wit, they put extra time on the clock at the end of each of the first two quarters, 4/10 of a second the first time, 2/10 of a second the second. In each instance, they were technically correct. In each instance, it didn’t matter a lick as neither team could muster a shot in such a short period of time. So why bother? To extend the game another five minutes while they huddle around a television monitor and the fans look at each other in confusion? If so, consider it mission accomplished, fellas.
- There was an insane block by Brown around the 8:00 mark of the third quarter that amounted to nothing except to make me less liable to question his defense going forward. Nice work.
- Actual text that made it onto the Jumbotron: “Hi Brad, and virgie love from …” <quick switch to a Honda ad>
- Paul showed some rust. Dribbling the thing out of bounds with no pressure? Glad that didn’t come back to bite the team in the end.
- I absolutely loved seeing West box out on the final rebound. He freakin’ turned his back to the basket completely, just to make sure his guy couldn’t get off of him. I can be critical of the big guy, but when he’s doing things like that late in games, it’s impossible for me to stay mad at him.
UPDATE: Check Mr. Kennedy's post-game Journal report.
UPDATE 2: Lots of video, including Devin Brown getting the top play of the night in the NBA...


21 exceptional comments post your own
Mark
12/08/09 11:15 PM
I saw West get "fouled" to the ground. Normally that evokes somewhat of a concern, but I was strangely happy to see him doing something other than do post up fadaway midrange jumpers.
Don't see our team ever being a run-and-gun team, especially with this many old farts who refuse to run around. The only people I can envision legitimately adopting are Thornton, JuJu and Collison (the young'ns you said). CP maybe, but his offensive career thus far has been centered on half court, pick-and-roll offense that it'd be weird seeing otherwise. Maybe acquisitions or trades...?
Nice use of "vacillate" too. Had to look that one up.
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LSUhornet
12/08/09 11:35 PM
I thought Thornton played some very solid D on Evans in the third and beginning of the fourth. Didn't really understand why Bower stayed with Posey when the Kings went to a 3 guard lineup late in the fourth. With Posey on him, Evans got into the lane twice for a layup and a trip to the foul line. Thankfully on one of their last possessions Tyreke posted up on Posey instead of running iso on the perimeter, forcing a contested turn-around and bailing us out. I definitely thought we needed somebody quicker out there, but it ended up not killing us, so maybe I'm wrong. I would've brough in Devin or Collisonto guard Udrih and left Buckets on Tyreke. Would've been a crucial assignment for the rook, but that's how you learn.
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SaveYourBoredom
12/08/09 11:55 PM
Somebody's already complained that Bower manages his lineup in response to what the other team does. I'm not a basketball genius, but can anybody tell me how this makes sense? Shouldn't a coach always want to be the aggressor? And when your starting center is having one of his best games of the season, how much sense does it make to play a career journeyman named Darius instead of him in crunch time? They'll speculate Okafor was hurt but he did make a cameo appearance at some point in the last minute. What is the freakin deal?
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JChangNZ
12/09/09 01:18 AM
Update on Sean Marks:
http://www.nola.com/hornets/t-p/index.ssf?/base/sports-4/1260339640275440.xml&coll=1
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ticktock6
12/09/09 07:51 AM
Okafor looked shaken up after he went to the floor, and then was pulled to the bench. He saw a cameo appearance late because Songaila had fouled out. That's the freakin deal.
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downtowndave78
12/09/09 08:39 AM
I don't think we have the personnel to be a run-n-gun team either. Four or five of our players fit the mold, and that isn't enough to make it a real threat.
Regarding Peja's 14 points- he also played 26 minutes and shot 4/5 from the three point line. He basically only played the 1st and 3rd quarters although his shooting was outstanding, and with him in such a rhythm I would have liked to see him more in this game. Shooting like this offsets his lack of defense. It isn't ideal, but the guy was on fire! Box score:
http://www.nba.com/games/20091208/SACNOH/gameinfo.html#nbaGIboxscore
I agree with LSUHORNET & SaveYour Bo regarding substitutions and line-ups. They stink, and I really think we are beginning to see Bower's lack of experience as a coach. I kept my eyes on Posey the entire game, and he had one really nice defensive stand towards the end of the game and a three pointer. Other than that he was slow and ineffective. It was also a big mistake to run the second quarter so long with Collison and Thornton- the turnover tandem, and once again Okafor was absent during the end of the game. JuJu deserved a shot to play last night when the second team collapsed!
I was glad to see Thornton turn it around in the second half...playing with the starters worked for him, and the starters really dominated the Kings which is nice. (Nicer if they would be allowed to end the game)
Wrestling in the NBA----- Please or you kidding me????? Please say you are! They should have had a real dunk contest instead- King vs Super Hugo!!!!1
Overall, we are simply beating ourselves in to many areas of the game, and we need to get some of our adjustments right.
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LSUhornet
12/09/09 08:52 AM
I never said the lineups stink. I don't think they do. Bower said he had Songaila out there at the end because he defended the pcik and roll better than Emeka. You can't really fault him for that in this one as Songaila ended up hitting the winning shot. His comments about knowing Nocioni's FT tendencies (missing them) after the game showed his last foul wasn't a mindless one either.
My only problem was that he trusted Posey to guard Evans in crunch time, which resulted in quick points in 2/3 possessions.
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Mikey
12/09/09 09:01 AM
Hilton Armstrong: 3 minutes, 1 rebound, 0 points. That makes me happy, other than the fact that thats three too many minutes. Marks and Diagou cannot come back fast enough.
As far as being a run & gun team, I can perhaps seeing the 2nd unit morph into that, but not the starting lineup. Okafor, West, and Peja just wouldn't be able to keep that pace up.
Tyreke Evans is a superior talent, and will be a star in this league for a long time. The guy can get to the rim at will. I'm excited to see him grow in the NBA game. One thing he really needs to improve upon is his jump shot. As the year goes on, you will see good defensive teams (of which we are not)take away his drives to the right, and give him space to dare to make a jumper.
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Niall Doherty
12/09/09 09:17 AM
Agreed that Posey on Evans wasn't the best idea.
Bower said himself that Songaila was out there late because the defensive game plan was to switch on the picks and he's very good at moving his feet and staying in front of opposing guards. Okafor can't do that.
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ticktock6
12/09/09 09:19 AM
If I remember correctly, the way the Hornets shut down Evans in the previous home game was to switch Paul off him and Posey onto him. He scored very little after that. Fluke? Coincidence? Who knows, but I bet that's why they tried it again.
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Niall Doherty
12/09/09 09:24 AM
Thinking more about it, it's harsh to criticize any one guy for not containing Tyreke Evans. He's pretty much unstoppable one-on-one. The Hornets focused a lot of their team defense on him in the previous game and wound up getting burned by the likes of Sergio Rodriguez.
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Chip Douglas
12/09/09 10:20 AM
Yeah, I won't burn Posey alive for this defense last night. But I do think he is a poor defender in general, and that ain't helping the team.
The masses have spoken in regards to a run-and-gun, but I will add one thing: I think Peja would flourish in that kind of offense. The man would be lethal as hell on the secondary break, and I think you'd see him become a more efficient player as well (more points per minute, though downtownd is right, last night he did well in that regard).
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pinoyballah
12/09/09 12:13 PM
as much as i rather see are starting lineup pushing the ball, i don't think they have the speed to keep up rather than paul with a run n gun style of play. I do hope they do play somewhat faster than the pace they have right now. i feel paul is much more effective when the pace is faster.
i do agree on pushing the tempo when our bench is in...way too much athleticism sitting on the bench to play slow. kinda reminds me of the "high intensity" bench we had a couple years back!
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SaveYourBoredom
12/09/09 12:24 PM
Niall I have a question: I accept your (and Bower's) hypothesis that Songaila is better against the pick-and-roll than Okafor, but do you think the substitution actually worked? I don't know that I saw it. The score was tied at the end.
I ask because the Hornets have for the past few years operated under certain assumptions (Posey is a defensive stud, Morris Peterson is good with a microphone, Hilton Armstrong deserves to play, etc.) that I've never seen proven. Your thoughts?
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Niall Doherty
12/09/09 12:40 PM
@ SaveYourBoredom: Good question. Hard to say if switching on the picks like that was a good strategy, but I liked that it was something different to what they tried last time against the Kings. I think we're seeing more experimentation with Bower as coach, and there will be some nights when the experiments work well and other nights when they don't.
So did the substitution actually work? For that strategy (switching on the picks), I'd say yes. Whether or not that was the best strategy to go with is debatable.
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HollisBuckeye21
12/09/09 01:07 PM
Slowly on the verge of hitting .500, gotta like it. Last night there were some times where the team appeared flat but ultimately got the win.
As for Posey on Evans, I saw someone hit on it but Posey didn't do bad the first time, but tonight Evans mad him look foolish at the end. However, I feel Evans is a superb talent that has a stellar future ahead and will be making many defenders look foolish.
Hoping for the win tonight to get this squad to 10-11. The Western Conference has more parity than most people thought if you ask me, and the way we are playing, the Hornets are right in the hunt. Love seeing this team make the critics look foolish. Hope it continues.
That was a pretty good Top Ten. That Harris chuck was awesome.
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Mikey
12/09/09 01:48 PM
Chip: I like the discussion that the run-and-gun idea fostered. I also think there is a place for it on this Hornets team. It would just have to be used sparingly, and in certain personnel packages. I'd love to see it utilized with a Collison (or B. Brown if he's feeling it that night)/Thornton/Wright/Armstrong (or Marks)/D. Brown (or Paul) lineup.
Best possible place to use this lineup is in the 2nd quarter. You could change the pace up, and see if you could get some easy baskets out of it. What's the worst that could happen, you go into a scoring slump? Isn't that what happens every 2nd quarter anyway?
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downtowndave78
12/09/09 01:52 PM
I agreed with what you said in your post LSUHornet .
Me, Myself, and I said his lineups stinks. Sorry it wasn't clearer.
It is very obvious that Bower is experimenting with many different approaches to the game. He is a rookie coach. This is normal, and we will see some good and some bad things because of it.
I wish, however, we played our game instead of letting other teams dictate how we play, and I think if we brought our game every night that might eliminate some of these questionable decisions.
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downtowndave78
12/09/09 01:55 PM
Good idea Mikey...that would be an interesting 2nd quarter, and it can't get any worse.
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Caleb462
12/09/09 02:30 PM
We already have seen the pace increase some in the Bower era. The team is certainly not running and gunning, but the pace has slowly creeped up since Bower took over. I noticed it immediately, and I hope it continues. 92.2 possesions a game... which is 18th in pace. In fact that's a HUGE leap from where the pace was last year.
I guarantee you the team would be under 90.0 possesions a game if Byron was still coaching. The fastest this team ever played under Byron was 90.2 possesions a game in 06-07. Every other year the team hovered around 88 possesions a game.
Not that a slow game is an inherently negative thing, or vice versa... just saying that while Byron talked the talk of "running more," we've actually seen on-court results of this talk under Bower.
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Chip Douglas
12/09/09 03:16 PM
Mikey -- Yeah, that was the point, just to throw it out there and get people talking. :-) I love the second quarter change-of-pace idea as an alternative to adopting the approach as a base philosophy. Check out the following lineup:
Collison
Thornton
Posey
Wright
Armstrong
You'd get murdered on defense, but you wouldn't see those 5 minute scoreless streaks either. And as you filter in guys like Paul and Brown you don't even have to slow it down either. You might cut into West's minutes a little, but I can deal with that if the team is scoring points and not miring itself in a scoring funk.
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