This started as a response to comments, but it got huge. So I'll go full out blog post here, because that's how I roll.
People are focusing on the end of the game last night, and the two bad shots Paul jacked up. They should. They were bad shots. Honestly, however, those are pretty rare for Chris Paul. He typically eschews the big three pointer in favor of a two-man game with West that has been very effective over the past few years - or a high pick and roll where he explodes to the basket. Pull up threes just haven't been common at the end of games.(unless you want to count his game winner against Indiana last year - but that game was tied. If he missed, the Hornets still had overtime.)
Paul's a smart player and he knows he's a point guard. I have little worry he'll suddenly morph into LeBron James or Kobe Bryant doing their frequently ineffective hero shows at the end of close games. The history of the Hornets at the end of close games over the last 4 years have been more about West, Butler and Peja game winners than Paul dominating the ball.
Anyways, there are two things about last night's game I wanted to comment on:
The Hornets Starting Frontcourt Ain't Speedy
In fact, they're criminally slow. This thought has been dwelling in my mind for about three weeks now, spreading tendrils of darkness and despair.(perhaps I shall call it Youngfella) No matter how speedy Chris Paul is, there is little he is going to be able to do in guarding the pick and roll when he is relying on David West, Emeka Okafor or sometimes Peja Stojakovic to hedge on a pick and recover defensively with any alacrity. The schedule so far has been littered with speedy guards playing way over their head as a result of the Hornet's struggling to defend the pick and roll. Jose Juan Barea is not a 20+ per game scorer. Sergio Rodriguez should not score 24 points on your team. Tyreke Evans is good, but he shouldn't look like Dwayne Wade coming off a high screen.
Jeff Bower does recognize this. He plays Songaila instead of Okafor. He plays Posey instead of West.(Hmm. I wonder if that's an improvement) He tried Wright out last night. It's the only reason Armstrong still gets minutes.
Still, some of you want to know why Okafor is only getting 29.7 mpg, and this is the answer. West and Okafor have the same problems defending the pick and roll, and the pick and roll is the staple of almost every team in the league during crunch time. Bower therefore feels he can only pick one or the other and goes with West at center to hopefully take advantage of his offensive talents.
I see this deficiency as the number one problem facing the Hornets right now. I'm also not sure there's a way to fix it without West or Okafor moving somewhere else - though that's a post for another day.
The 2nd unit didn't Single-handedly get the Hornets into the Game
Yes, putting out a more athletically mixed lineup did amp up the defense tremendously through the middle periods and help generate the comeback, but it still wouldn't have happened without one thing: Chris Paul. If we're going to blame him for the end, I have to give him credit for the middle. Here's a breakdown of the play-by-play for the 2nd and third quarters. It becomes quickly apparent the type of impact Paul had on the game once he had a bunch of athletic wingmen to run with:
2nd Quarter
Collison, Paul, Posey, West, and Armstrong start the quarter. At 10:29 the Mavericks get their biggest lead, 18-39, on a shot by Kris Humphries. The run starts for the Hornets:
- 10:07 Paul assists West
- Julian Wright replaces West.
- 9:29 Paul assists Armstrong
- 9:17 Paul steals the ball
- 9:15 Paul draws foul on Drew Gooden
- 9:04 Paul assists Posey
- 8:33 Posey misses
- 8:06 Armstrong Misses
- 7:43 Paul draws foul on Barea, hits 2 of 2.
- 7:33 Posey Steals
- 7:28 Paul assists Julian Wright
Timeout Dallas, score 29-39, Paul leaves the game for Thornton, having completed an 11 point run. Paul re-enters the game at 3:03. The score is 36-45.
- 2:30 Paul hits jumper
- 1:51 Paul Assists Hilton
- 1:19 Paul misses jumper
- 1:02 Paul assists Thornton
- 0:01 Paul misses shot at buzzer. Score is 43-49.
So the bench without Paul cut 2 points from the deficit. With Paul, they cut 14 points from the deficit.
3rd Quarter
In this quarter, the Hornets tie the game at 60-60 at the 4:31 mark. The posessions for the Hornets up until that point:
- 11:49 Paul assists Peja on a three
- 11:15 West completes a layup and one.
- West, Okafor, Brown and Peja miss.
- 8:57 Paul hits jumper
- 8:42 Paul hits jumper
- 8:08 Paul misses
- 8:04 Paul layup
- 7:18 Paul assists Devin Brown
- Brown Turnover, West miss, West miss, Peja turnover, Peja miss
- 4:56 Paul layup
- 4:31 Paul assists Okafor. Tie game.
Then Paul assists another shot and leaves the game at the 1:47 mark with the Hornets trailing 64-66. He returns ONE MINUTE later, and the Hornets are down 64-71. Paul misses once, Collison hits, Paul steals and the quarter is over. Hornets down five.
So, the bench without Paul was a net -3. The bench mixed with Paul and some starters was a net +19. More ammo for shaking up the starting lineup? Probably. Was Chris Paul dribbling too much the problem? If I had a list of the top 10 things wrong with the Hornets right now, none of those items would contain the words Chris or Paul.


16 super-fantastic comments post your own
Vic De Zen
12/15/09 03:30 PM
I'm not saying Chris Paul should be exempt from criticism, but... okay, maybe I am saying that. CP3 does SO much for this team. Two bad shots? You live with them.
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Niall Doherty
12/15/09 03:32 PM
Good points, but I have to disagree with the last one. Chris Paul was of course a big reason the Hornets got back in the game and were able to compete last night, but that was him at his best and the Hornets still lost. The easy response there is that Paul didn't get enough help, but my argument is that the over-reliance on CP is precisely why other guys aren't stepping up when needed.
Icebird put it well in the comments of the last post: "when Paul was out injured, everyone else took more responsibility for creating the offense. When Paul came back, in the crunch situations, he feels 'I have to make something happen' and the rest of the team waits for him to make something happen."
I'd like to see the ball out of Paul's hands more; keep the defense guessing where the attack is coming from (it's pretty obvious right now).
True, that's not the magic solution to solve all the Hornets' woes, but I think it would make for a much improved offense in the long run.
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Diane
12/15/09 04:01 PM
I agree 100% with Niall.
Your the best Ryan - foolish or not
#3
commentcava
12/15/09 04:07 PM
I agree with Niall, too. There was a lot more team-work when cp was out. Now, it looks like we're relying on him to create 85% of the offense, and Ryan's numbers bear that out. A lot less ball movement and a lot more standing around waiting for chris to create. I think it's something to be concerned about, but I have no idea what to do about it.
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LSUhornet
12/15/09 04:13 PM
I see both of these as problems right now. It's not a good thing if you can't play your two best frontcourt players at the same time without getting burned defensively. Though the stagnant offense of the last two fourth quarters didn't look much different than it did under Byron, albeit with new faces. I don't see an easy fix for either problem.
The best solution for the stagnant offense is Paul seeing what is going on and adjusting accordingly. He's a smart guy and wants to win more than anything else, so I think this is a distinct possibility. We want the ball in his hands more often than not, no question. However, I think his game and the team's would benefit from more variety on that end.
As for the frontcourt and their concrete shoes, who knows. D-Song has been getting a lot of the crunch time minutes and he isn't exactly fleet-footed, not to mention Posey (although he was great last night). Emeka has been nothing but solid so far this year and I hate to see his presence marginalized by DWest's and his shortcomings in the pick and roll defense, but that's exactly what is happening. I'm really at a loss for how to correct this. Songaila is a solid reserve, but shouldn't be over relied-upon and can't be inserted over West with the starters (even if it'd work, it's not gonna happen). We don't have another starting quality center on the team.
Maybe limiting DWest's minutes more and letting Okafor play out there with the reserves more often. (Does he really need those 5 or so minutes of rest that Hilton gets in for?).
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LSUhornet
12/15/09 04:21 PM
Although I did this successfully do this in the trade machine: David West (3 yrs) and Hilton Armstrong (1yr) for Tyrus Thomas (1yr) and Jerome James (who?/ 1yr)
Haha I'm just playing around, but I see definite upside. (Way more mobile, much better help defender, 2 expiring contracts, I'll find out who Jerome James is.)
Of course there's a big chance for disaster Tyrus is inconsistent as all hell, has had zero coaching stability and has been kind of a head case and a little jump-shot happy lately, not to mention no matter what he's about 10 steps below DWest as far as being as efficient on offense. Still, I see definite benefits for both sides.
Trade Machine is fun.
#6
Caleb462
12/15/09 04:59 PM
Actually lsuhornet, efficiency-wise West and Thomas are about the same despite Thomas' lower shooting percentages. The difference is that West has a much more refined offensive game and a killer jumpshot, and has proved he can handle a fairly large offensive load... same can't be said for Tyrus.
Still, West as a trade piece does intrigue me. I never thought I'd want to see him go, but his help defense and rebounding is just so awful... and with his offense dropping off its hard to see him helping the team much. He may bounce back offensively, and I hope he does, but I'm very curious about what the Hornets could get in return for West.
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LSUhornet
12/15/09 05:28 PM
Yeah I don't want to see West go at all, just playing around. Though if these problems don't work themselves out, you have to figure he's easier to move than Mek, and that trade actually helps with the tax, if I interpret it correctly.
Bulls have been looking for a low post scorer for ages, and West fits the bill. They also need somebody who can knock down jumpers when Rose penetrates, also works with West. I looked at the Bulls first b/c I thought he fit best with them.
I'm sure there's other teams that would be interested, but I can't think of any off the top of my head.
#8
corndeaux
12/15/09 05:54 PM
Not sure why this is a surprise to people.
Any rational, unbiased observer knew at the onset of this year that the front court was littered with slow, small, unathletic big men. Only one of whom (Okafor) is known for defense and actually rebounding.
Can't believe people are trashing on CP for missing shots. He's played 40mpg since he's come back and been lighting it up. On a bum ankle.
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corndeaux
12/15/09 05:56 PM
@caleb- West should have been shopped last year at this team. His defense and rebounding were already showing cracks. His value was at its highest. Would have been very interested to see what he could have gotten. Now with so few teams having a legit chance to contend, there won't be much out there.
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downtowndave78
12/15/09 06:53 PM
@Corndeaux- Nobody was trashing CP3.
A question was just asked this morning if the final shot of the game was rushed and could more time have been used to produce a better look despite having no timeouts.
You also need to check out the video analysis Niall put together comparing the Scott and Bower offenses. This was done while Collison was starting, and we were beginning to see a lot of ball movement that was generated from a lot of new plays that the analysis talked about. This ball movement has stopped since CP returned, and we have gone back to Scott's let Paul do it all approach.
Nobody is trash talking CP3. We are just wondering if we would be a better team using his skills within a different offensive scheme.
Thanks for the breakdown Ryan, but sorry to hear the negative report on our two big money bigs. I was hoping they would become a really dangerous tandem this year.
I would like to see Paul run the offense that was being used with Collison. His mastery of the position would only make the brilliance we saw with Collison that much better. I think it is difficult for him to switch because the Scott style is all he has ever known, and we are losing so he is putting all the responsibility on his own shoulders.
#11
Ryan Schwan
12/15/09 10:19 PM
I don't think Paul should be immune from criticism. I understand the points made. Still, I'm good with what Paul does out there most of the time. Well, maybe not some of the flopping, but most of it, I'm golden.
Of course, I've always got a lot of inertia. It takes me a long time to start to question a player who has reached a certain level of excellence. Hell, I was still hoping Baron would come back halfway through the disaster season when he'd quit on everyone. And Niall usually spots trouble earlier than I do, so you should probably listen to him. He was ready to see Byron Scott walk about 3-4 months before I was. He was right.
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supernick
12/15/09 10:28 PM
@LSUhornet17, how about the cavs as a possible d west trade partner? Say big Z and jj hickson for d west. It doesnt work as is but the hornets could use their trade exception for antonio daniels or see if the cavs would take back mo pete as well, or the combo of marks and devin brown... gives hornets cap space this summer as Z is an expiring and jj is possibly a nice piece, cavs get a somewhat "stretch" 4 to pair with LBJ and Shaq
#13
LSUhornet
12/15/09 11:12 PM
@supernick
Yeah, but then their starting frontcourt is slower than ours. Do you think they want to go into a possible series against Orlando with DWest on Rashard Lewis? I wouldn't. That's what killed them last year, and West would be worse than Sideshow Bob(Varejao) in that regard. I see how he would help on offense, but really I think they kind of figured it out with Hickson starting instead of Andy. The way their offense works, I don't see West as a big advantage over Hickson, certainly not worth the trade (They need Z as Shaq insurance).
#14
LSUhornet
12/16/09 09:23 AM
Rumors concerning the Hornets are usually bogus, but here's something from Slam Online for what it's worth.
http://www.slamonline.com/online/nba/2009/12/welcome-to-the-trade-block-anthony-randolph/
Mentions DWest as a potential trade chip for Anthony Randolph. I don't see how this works at all for Nellieball, but I'd probably take it. (I'm a homer what can I say)
#15
corndeaux
12/16/09 09:42 AM
re: Cavs- Posey to the Cavs makes sense for both teams.
ddave- Paul is getting more assists under Bower- so far- than he ever got under Byron. Not sure how that jives with a same old offense comment.
What I do not understand is why people bash a guy for wanting to take a big shot. West did it against Miami and got slammed. Paul does and takes a hit. Was it the best shot? No. So what? Paul, the best player on the floor, was open and tried to win the game.
I agree Paul probably needs to trust his guys a little bit more. But his problem is more competitive in nature. His desire to win is well documented. He is by far the best player on the roster. Therefore he must control everything in order to win. Even MJ needed to learn that lesson.
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