At halftime, I was about ready to turn the game off and go play Mass Effect 2. The only reason I didn't was that I wanted to see if Thornton and Collison could get things in gear in the second half. By the end of overtime, I was on the phone to my buddy, crowing "Collison took Conley to the Woodshed!"
A 21-point comeback, and two halves that were as consistent as Julian Wright, followed by an overtime that the Hornets couldn't get a offensive rebound in, and the Grizzlies couldn't make a shot.
Darren Collison
Where to start. He took Paul's rookie record for assists in a game, and scored 17 points on 11 shots, getting a lot of his points from the line. He suckered Conley into fouling him twice on up-fakes, got into the paint at will against anyone, and fed Okafor the easiest 21 points of his life. That third quarter was simply a clinic of pick and roll basketball. Defensively, he was also supremely effective. Since Conley couldn't guard him without fouling non-stop, Collison frequently found himself guarding Jamaal Tinsley. That made him essentially free to roam the floor, lay off the three point line, pack the paint on penetrations, and double when needed. Oh, and Collison's dunk in overtime that put the team over the top? I was bracing myself for a block from behind when I saw Rudy Gay loping along behind him like a wolf. Instead, Collison put on a burst of speed and dunked it home, sealing the deal. Perfect.
David West
One night after being a part of a crushingly bad play at the end of the Chicago game, David West was instrumental on two major plays. Defensive plays, no less. On the perimeter. Seriously. Twice he got his hand on OJ Mayo's dribble, forcing him into a travel near the end of regulation, and then he poked the ball free for Collison's dunk on the backbreaker play of the game.
Thank you, Memphis
In the first half, Randolph and Gasol were an unstoppable 14-18 with 6 free throws. The Grizz played a great inside-out game, and the Hornets were defending like tissue paper in the paint. In the second half, the Grizzlies went to their two big men for a total of 6 shots. In fact, the two bigs made more shots on offensive rebounds and tip ins(4) than off of plays run for them. (they went 3-6)
I'd love to say it was the Hornets defense that changed things - and they did more freely double Randolph, but a lot of it was because the Grizzlies just didn't stay disciplined and get the ball to the right guys.
Rookie Report
We already touched on Collison, so now we'll talk about Thornton. We all knew that he had a bad game on the way. He's a scorer, and scorers sometimes have off nights, and I was worried what sort of impact that would have on his game. Thornton handled it like a champ. He kept aggressive when his shot was falling, getting to the line a little and, more importantly, crashing the boards for easy putbacks. So despite a poor 14 points on 17 shots, he also contributed 9 rebounds, including 3 on the offensive glass, making himself useful despite his struggles. I was also certain that he was going to win the game on that last second offensive rebound in regulation, but he rushed the tip in, thinking he had less time, and it went short. Still, that he was in position for it was awesome.
Other Observations
- Paul was animated as usual during the third quarter run. After Collisons big dunk to seal it in overtime, Paul was jumping up and down on his one good leg out to meet him, and give him a wincing hip-bump.(they aren't chest bumps) Later, he gave the rookie the same treatment David West gave Okafor earlier in the season after a big play. Those wacky All-stars, always trying to crack their teammates skulls.
- Speaking of celebrations and David West, when Collison threw that ball down, West had been trailing, and he was roaring with triumph at Collison. As animated as I've seen him all season.
- One note of concern though - Paul was REALLY staying off that knee. It did not look like something that would go away soon.
- Peja went 5-15, but still scored 20 due to 7 free throws. I'll be honest, the last time I saw Peja shoot 7 free throws in a game was . . . well . . . I don't think I've EVER seen him shoot that many free throws in a game. (Okay, I went and checked and he took 8 free throws early this season to ice a game. Before that, the last time he shot that many free throws was last year against, you guessed it, Memphis. Someone needs to tell them not to foul a jumpshooter.)
- At multiple points this game, I just wanted a rebound. Just one, lousy, rebound.
- Good news for Memphis fans. Their backup center Thabeet outplayed the Hornets backup center Aaron Gray. I'm sure that comforts them when they play Sacramento and get to see Tyreke Evans.
- Julian Wright was painful to watch. Not as painful as Aaron Gray, but not too far off either.
Have a good night.


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SaveYourBoredom
01/31/10 12:43 AM
I didn't get to see this game. But I kept checking the score on my phone. And it occurred to me, somewhere around halftime, that Paul wasn't playing, and that we traded both Browns... so who in the hell was going to play point guard when Collison left the floor? Apparently, Collison played 47 of 53 minutes, so who ran point when he wasn't playing? Thornton? Peterson?
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Mark
01/31/10 12:44 AM
Dude, what a low blow regarding Thabeet.
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Ryan Schwan
01/31/10 12:59 AM
I meant to comment on that in the Thornton section, SYB, but I forgot. Thornton ran the point for the five minutes Collison was sitting down, and he did a fine job of it. He handled pressure, got the ball upcourt and into the offense, and even got a nice drive and kick out of it.
I'm shameless, Mark. Plus, I still hear comments about Armstrong and Simmons. It's time to share the pain.
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QueenBee
01/31/10 01:44 AM
Paul was really staying off that knee? Don't look like he stayed off of it enough imo. I couldn't believe he was jumping up and down and jumping up to hip bump like that. I kept yelling "SIT DOWN CHRIS!!" LOL! I can see getting up to get in the huddle or to meet your teammates during a timeout but he was doing a bit too much jumping for a person with a sore knee. But perhaps that's just what it is 'sore' and nothing too serious. I sure hope it's nothing too serious but I can't see him jumping up and down like that if it were indeed very serious.
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Caleb462
01/31/10 01:46 AM
What a game. Sort of a signature win for this year's Hornets team I think... even without Paul. They may not have the win-loss record that last year's team had, but game in and game out we see a "never give up" mentality that did not seem to be present much of last season.
Dimes lived up to his nickname tonight. You're right, he (and Mek) put on a pick and roll clinic after halftime.
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JCS
01/31/10 03:16 AM
NOLA won the battle, but Memphis has some of the greatest BBQ in the world. Corky's FTW.
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cameron is my name!
01/31/10 04:11 AM
Maybe it's just me... I was a bit intoxicated at the time, but I feel like Mo Pete actually contributed off the bench. Regardless of his scoring, I thought his presence had a lot to do with the 3rd quarter run.
I was also so close to changing the channel at halftime. I had lost interest, but I figured the Hornets would come back to an uncomfortably close game to give me yet another coronary. All in all, GG.
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mW
01/31/10 08:21 AM
Believe it or not, though he had little impact on O, Mo Pete actually played very good defense on Mayo in the 2nd half. Nice to see him contribute. Ended up w/ 21 min. and a +13 plus/minus.
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QueenBee
01/31/10 10:27 AM
I, too, feel like Mo had a bit of an impact off the bench. I remember him going up high practically in traffic to snag a rebound and I was like "Was that MO?" LOL!!
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downtowndave78
01/31/10 10:35 AM
Was Aaron Gray really that bad? The box had him at 6 minutes, 3 boards, and 1 blocked shot. I also noticed JuJu's minutes were way down, so did he implode again?
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Mark
01/31/10 10:38 AM
Ryan, we've had some awful draft decisions in the past, so I'm rather hesitant to denounce any mishaps during the draft. But then again, we did get Chris 'He's-too-small-for-the-NBA' Paul. I think that turned out to be a pretty good pick.
Definitely proud of that game. Hope we can build upon it, if only confidence. JuJu, you listening?
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Diane
01/31/10 11:04 AM
Oh boy, I'm so glad I'm not a Memphis fan. I would have been so mad! They should have pack their bags and gone home at the end of the game and not even played overtime.
I LOVE Darrin Collison. We have a new birth on the team! I call him Baby Paul. (Unless someone beat me to the name). Just unbelievable the way he played. Now lets see if it carries on into the rest of the season.
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YoungFella
01/31/10 12:20 PM
Amazing that once again this team executed as well (if not better) over the course of an entire came with Collison at the helm instead of CP3.
That's a continuation of the trend that had developed when CP3 was injured earlier this season.
It doesn't make much sense but it's really undeniable.
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HollisBuckeye21
01/31/10 12:50 PM
Haven't posted in a while but have been reading all the articles. This win is why I feel this team could cause some headaches for teams. I saw some of the first quarter and then all of the fourth and overtime. I wish I would have been home during that 3rd quarter run. I was really fired up there in OT. I'm an Ohio guy living in Indiana for school so it's all about the Pacers and Cavs so I get heckled by everyone on my floor. I was so pumped.
Also, what exactly goes into figuring the plus/minus stat? I've always kind of wondered but never really asked. Thanks.
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notoriousBEE
01/31/10 01:02 PM
I didn't think gray was that bad. Granted, I wasn't expecting much. As promised, he grabbed a couple rebounds, and blocked a shot. I think i remember a couple of nice passes too. I'll wait until I have a better sample size, but I think he could be marginally better than Hilton.
@YF - What's even more amazing is that West was out for most of that huge 3rd quarter comeback. I agree that more people seem to get involved when CP3 isn't on the floor. I don't know why that is. Are people not working to get open when CP3 is in the game? On the other hand, CP draws a lot of double teams, so maybe it's just a result of teams really keying in on him. DC was really getting deep penetration last night. Regardless, it is a concern.
Getting Emeka going offensively was big last night. I hope to see more of an effort to get him the ball way down low like DC was doing last night.
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Ryan Schwan
01/31/10 01:38 PM
Wow. What game did you guys watch? Darren Collison executed well in the third quarter and part of the fourth. For HALF the game, he was as bad as the rest of the team. He had 4 turnovers in the first half alone.
And during the big run, there were really only two players involved. Collison and Okafor. It was the exact same offense that Paul and Collison ran, the difference being that Collison was locked into Okafor and only looked elsewhere when he got in trouble. Paul finds people all over the floor.
In fact, the offense was the exact same the Hornets run under Paul. Pick and Roll.
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Chung
01/31/10 01:45 PM
Impressive...I thought it would take the rest of the season, not by the All-star break, for the Hornets to get back in the playoff race after Scott was fired. Aaron Gray did have 2 rebounds in 6 minutes. That's better than West's 4 in 40 minutes.
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chefcdb
01/31/10 01:57 PM
Once the Hornets finally got their lead in OT, and after Collison had his dunk, when the Grizz took a timeout to stare at the ground in defeat; CP came running up to the guys and yelled, "WHO DAT!" at them, especially to DC. Thought that was pretty funny and cool.
About the difference between Collison and CP getting into the lane: teams do force CP to give it up, packing the lane or making a moving fence to keep him from penetrating. Memphis thought they could contain the savvy rookie; they failed; however, other NBA teams will likely apply CP rules to young DC. Collison needs some more confidence in his 3 pt shooting, as that has been a huge weapon for Paul this season when teams lay off him. Perhaps most impressive about Collison was his start'n'stop change of speed dribbles. He was able to stay aggressive as a ballhandler by patiently using his dribble to get his initial defender off balance, eventually as he worked into the lane, then he used his guile and quickness to put the slow bigs who had to rotate in coverage (yep, that's you Marc Gasol...) in peril. Memphis backside D was late all game, as they stuck to Peja or MoPete instead of crashing the lane for late coverage, hence Okafor had consistent access to the rim the entire 2nd half.
That was a real confidence boost for the team, as the Hornets had dropped 3 OT games in January. To win without CP nor Posey, with D West in foul trouble through the bulk of the 2nd half comeback, to find that aggression, speed and moxie to expose a team that is not used to winning in Memphis, all that was a huge statement. I mean we had guys playing who were less experienced in our two stellar rookies, a guy who has never won in the NBA in Okafor, with Songaila & Peja for the bulk of the comeback, so it wasn't like the Hornets were fielding a team that had years of experience together.
If I'm a Memphis fan, I am especially perplexed at how Rudy Gay vanished during this game. He seemed strangely reluctant to shoot, and to me it looked like he wanted nothing to do with being "the go to guy." Maybe he believes he must defer to Zach, since he got the All-Star nod. He just seemed oddly disinterested in really stepping up...
The Hornets are shaping up to be the team that nobody fears, but absolutely nobody wants to face in the playoffs. I think this edition will get better, but they are playing with the kind of tenacity and poise that translates into many big wins in the future.
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notoriousBEE
01/31/10 02:22 PM
@Ryan - Don't get me wrong, I'm not suggesting that the hornets are better with Paul on the bench. I shouldn't have said more people get involved when CP3 is out. What I think I'm frustrated by is this: it seems like the hornets settle for long range jumpers on too many of their offensive possessions - often bad shots late in the shot clock (Maybe my perception is way off base). I thought it was nice to see Emeka get consistent feeds down low in the third. I would like to see the hornets try harder to get Emeka going early in the game, which should open up the wings later. Admittedly, Emeka sometimes has trouble fumbling passes - last night he didn't.
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downtowndave78
01/31/10 03:21 PM
@notorious- I am glad to hear your opinion on Gray, and hopefully his play will exceed our expectations. I am not expecting much, but I will take "better than Hilton" any day.
Also, I know Omeka has fumbled quite a few passes this year, but to his credit, I have seen numerous players make drives towards the basket and even launch into the air only to pass to Omeka at the last minute. It looks like a very clean pass that Omeka fumbles, but the passes are so last minute that I think Omeka is thinking rebound as opposed to offense. I wish I could have seen the Omeka/ Collison tandem last night.
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downtowndave78
01/31/10 03:21 PM
@notorious- I am glad to hear your opinion on Gray, and hopefully his play will exceed our expectations. I am not expecting much, but I will take "better than Hilton" any day.
Also, I know Omeka has fumbled quite a few passes this year, but to his credit, I have seen numerous players make drives towards the basket and even launch into the air only to pass to Omeka at the last minute. It looks like a very clean pass that Omeka fumbles, but the passes are so last minute that I think Omeka is thinking rebound as opposed to offense. I wish I could have seen the Omeka/ Collison tandem last night.
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downtowndave78
01/31/10 03:22 PM
@notorious- I am glad to hear your opinion on Gray, and hopefully his play will exceed our expectations. I am not expecting much, but I will take "better than Hilton" any day.
Also, I know Omeka has fumbled quite a few passes this year, but to his credit, I have seen numerous players make drives towards the basket and even launch into the air only to pass to Omeka at the last minute. It looks like a very clean pass that Omeka fumbles, but the passes are so last minute that I think Omeka is thinking rebound as opposed to offense.
I wish I could have seen the Omeka/ Collison tandem last night.
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downtowndave78
01/31/10 03:24 PM
Sorry about the three point shot.
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Joe
01/31/10 05:23 PM
Why not play Wright at the two when Thornton isn't in? Thornton could be a legit microwave off the bench and still play 27 minutes or whatever. I wonder if playing Julian and Peja together could help balance the wing issues. Or maybe the Hornets could use science to combine them into one really good wing. Peja Wright would be tall, athletic, and enegetic on both ends, with veteran smarts and savvy, and be a really good shooter. I'd also like to see Darius and Emeka on the floor together. Rebounding really suffers with those long stretches of Songalia and West together as the front line. And while I'm being wacky, could Darius be a 3 in a pinch? Is he really slower than Peja?
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Mark
01/31/10 05:56 PM
Hollis: People correct me if I'm wrong, but +/- is a stat that essentially is how well your team is doing while you're on court. So if you have a +1 stat, that would mean while you are on court, your team has outscored the other team by 1. Similarly, if you have a -1 stat, your team has been outscored by 1 while you were on court.
So realistically, if the unit you play on is really good, you could ultimately end up with no points, no rebounds, no steals, etc. but still a positive stat, just because of the other teammates. It's a bigger determinant than raw points on how well you're doing, and it's the preferred stat used by coach Phil Jackson in assessing the player's general productivity.
I think this is what you're asking, yes?
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YoungFella
01/31/10 06:02 PM
Schwan - you guys act like CP3 is LeBron or something. What's our biggest margin of victory this season - like 11 points?
Every damn game we win goes down to the wire. We would not have blown out the Grizzlies last night even if CP3 had been 100% healthy and played 45 minutes.
We are now 6-4 in games CP3 misses and that's a better winning percentage than we have in games he starts and plays over 30 minutes.
CP3 is clearly the best player on our team and a top 5 PG in the NBA but he's not All World like everybody in NOLA seems to think he is.
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YoungFella
01/31/10 06:04 PM
To finish my thoughts - "All World" players make their teammates around them better. MJ, Kobe, D Wade, etc.
CP3 has not made his teammates better since 05-07 when he lifted Chandler and West to near All Star (or All Star) levels.
DC is making his teammates better more frequently than CP3 is. It's a strange situation that needs to get resolved. I'm not even blaming CP3 for this - it's probably his teammates' fault as much as it is his (as has been pointed out by others). The offense tends to become stagnant with CP3 in crunchtime.
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Joe Gerrity
01/31/10 06:29 PM
@Youngfella- I'm not exactly sure what makes you think that Paul isn't the best PG in the league, or even making his teammates better anymore, but once again Paul leads the team in plus/minus. Say what you want, but when he is on the floor they are statistically a better team. They outscore their opponents.
While Collison is on the floor, the Hornets don't. Now how does that make sense if the team is better with Collison out there instead of Paul?
You can deny statistics all you want, but inserting subjective opinion like "The offense tends to become stagnant with CP3 in crunchtime." doesn't really hold much weight.
Here are some "clutch" statistics for this year. http://www.82games.com/0910/09NOH1.HTM#clutch - Paul
http://www.82games.com/0910/09NOH2.HTM#clutch - Collison
not sure what games you are watching.
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notoriousBEE
01/31/10 07:05 PM
@YF - I'm not sure where you come up with the idea that CP is just some average player. Check out efficiency ratings of the top players in the league - you'll find CP3 in the #2 spot, behind Lebron. Just like last year, and the year before.
http://www.hoopsstats.com/basketball/fantasy/nba/playerstats/10/1/eff
My impression isn't that CP3 is the problem, but that other players don't always work as hard when CP3 is in the game, probably because they don't have to. Maybe I'm just imagining that, maybe not. To go so far as to say CP3 doesn't make his team better, that's kinda ridiculous.
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Niall Doherty
01/31/10 07:30 PM
There's some validity to what YoungFella is saying, but I'd still consider Chris Paul the top point guard in the game and a legitimate top 5 player in the NBA, no question. I think the main problem is that the offense still relies too heavily on CP's brilliance, and he should share some of the blame in that. He settles for jump shots over big men on the mismatch far too often, and he still takes too many bounces out of the ball without going anywhere for my liking.
As for Collison, he's been doing great, but the sample size compared to what CP has done is tiny. DC is taking defenses by surprise right now, but we'll see how effective he can be when teams are ready and waiting for him.
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Mikey
02/01/10 08:29 AM
@ youngfella: In Wade's championship year, it was Shaq that was making him better. Since then, he has a 15-win season to his credit, along with a couple of early playoff exits. How exactly is that making anyone better? As far as Kobe goes, he was ready to bolt from LA or have them blow that team up before Pau Gasol just fell into the Lakers' lap and made them a championship contender. I think Gasol can actually take more credit than Kobe for making his teammates better.
Finally, to compare any guard to MJ is just plain stupid.
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