Marcus Thornton and Darren Collison did all they could to lead another unexpected comeback against a Western Conference foe, cutting a 17 point lead to only 2 in the fourth quarter before falling off. Like so many early jumpers, the ball just didn't bounce the right way for the Bees. The story heading in was how the rookies would fare so let’s get right to it.
Marcus Thornton
As a shooting guard, Marcus did everything expected of him and then some. On defense he was able to completely contain Jason Richardson (1-6, 3 points in 36 minutes), and although only credited for one steal, was a crucial factor in two more.
He was absolutely relentless in attacking the hoop, even after repeated failures. He was determined to get to the hole, and did so regularly with varying results. In his first five times attacking the hole, he was blocked twice to go along with his three misses. He wound up making a big lay-up late in the game while being fouled, but missed the free throw. Six drives for 2 points isn’t cutting it.
His five dimes were more than the rest of the team combined and he did it on only nine attempts. The total of 25 points on 21 shots isn’t great, but it’s solid. It must be noted that 15 of his points came during the fourth quarter comeback, so take that for what it's worth.
There aren’t many little men in the league who shoots as many put-backs on the offensive glass as Marcus does. Unfortunately it isn’t working. The effort is great, the rebounding is awesome, but he has to take the ball to the floor and reset the offense. It’s not as fun or exciting, but it’s the better play.
As expected, he also ran the point for nearly 12 minutes. His first possession resulted in an assist for him and an easy lay-up for James Posey. The next was a complete miscue and lack of communication that resulted in a turnover. Uh oh. Fortunately he settled into the role, finishing with a respectable three turnovers in 39 minutes. Not too shabby for a second round pick playing out of position for much of the night.
The most important minutes of his time at point guard came at the beginning of the fourth quarter with the most obscure Hornets’ lineup in recent memory-- Darius Songaila, David West, Julian Wright, James Posey and Marcus Thornton. The coaches, who we will speak about shortly, left the group in together for a full six minutes. During that time a 17 point Phoenix lead was reduced to 9, and the crowd was back in the game.
Darren Collison
DC2 had another up and down game. As a distributor he was great, finishing with 14 assists and 4 turnovers. He does an adequate job covering for Chris Paul in that aspect, but his teammates certainly deserve some credit. The veterans specifically seem like different people when CP3 is out. It’s as if they feel embarrassed that the kid making a million a year is outdoing them, so they hustle a little harder, fight a little more to get open, etc.
One thing that makes Paul’s distributing notably better than Collison’s is the ability to find the open three point shooter. Too many times Collison held onto the rock instead of feeding a wide open Peja or Thornton.
Offensively he tried to do too much. It’s no secret that his shot isn’t great, but he still took 18 of them, finishing with only 16 points. A late 26 foot three point air-ball essentially ended the game and isn't a shot that he should ever be taking in that situation.
On defense it was a struggle for Darren. Against Mike Conley, Collison might have felt like a bit of a big deal, but Nash (18 points on 10 shots, 12 assists and a single turnover) smacked him back to reality. It was an effortless night from Stevey, who never seemed too worried about the Hornets’ rookie defending him.
Collison admirably fought through screens and never gave up, but was unable to keep Nash from penetrating, resulting in what must have been 10 uncontested Phoenix layups or dunks in the first half.
Okafor and West
Offensively both were OK. West scored 20 points on 18 shots, and Okafor finished with 12 on 9, but on the defensive end they were lost.
It seemed that they had been figuring each other as the season progressed, but tonight they reverted back to the first few games. Okafor didn’t see the floor in the fourth quarter after being owned by Robin Lopez throughout.
I have a hard time admitting that the smallish duo of Okafor and West were simply over-matched by Amare and Lopez, but that's how things transpired. I can only speculate that it was a complete communication breakdown because throughout the first quarter it appeared we were playing without a man in the middle, despite both standing in the paint on most possessions.
To his credit, in the fourth quarter West really buckled down and played some tough defense against Amare, but it was too little too late.
Both struggled with rebounding, combining for only 10 boards in 62 minutes.
West game up grimacing in the second half, but appeared to be OK by the end.
The Coaches
With the addition of Chris Paul to the bench, there are now three coaches. Paul is in charge of the rookies and assists with referee lobbying, Bower is the one who stands up, yells, and heads the referee lobbying committee, and Tim Floyd is the X’s and O’s guy.
You can tell Paul wants to be out there. At one point the game was about to start and Paul, standing on the court, was still talking to Collison, standing on the sideline. As someone notified him that the game was about to start he gave a look toward the foul line, appeared to sigh, then headed back to his spot on the bench.
Also, it appears that Paul did not have surgery today. We could have used thim during the second quarter, when Phoenix went on a 29-13 run. It was clear then how much we missed our captain.
The Rest
- Peja was completely ineffective on offense, attempting only one three pointer all game. As always when playing the Suns though, it was fun watching his throwback match-up with Grant Hill.
- James Posey was back in action doing everything but scoring. He managed 8 rebounds and 6 assists in 24 minutes.
- Julian Wright had another good game, contributing 5 boards, 6 points, 1 turnover and a monstrous alley-oop from Marcus Thornton.
- Morris Peterson, expected to see a big increase in minutes as the only backup guard, managed only 8 tonight, putting up this fantastic line-- 0-2 shooting, 0 points, 0 rebounds, 0 assists, 0 steals, 0 blocks, 0 fouls, 0 turnovers. He might just be the least active player in the NBA.


19 mighty comments post your own
JCS
02/01/10 11:46 PM
A swarm of Hornets
cannot take out a herd of Bulls
A swarm of Hornets
cannot take out the Sun
A swarm of Hornets
needs a captain
to make the playoff run
-JCS
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Mark
02/01/10 11:50 PM
With those stats, I'm signing Mo Pete to my fantasy team. Go Cotton Swabs, go!
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Mark
02/01/10 11:52 PM
Questions is, can a swarm of Hornets take out... erm... Thunder?
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QueenBee
02/02/10 12:00 AM
If CP were guarding Nash he would've had about 6 turnovers. LOL!
#4
QueenBee
02/02/10 12:03 AM
No Nash didn't seem to worry too much about the Hornets rookie, even though that rookie and his team came out victorious in the last meeting.
#5
NOEngineer
02/02/10 05:17 AM
If we would have played defense for the first 42 minutes we might have won. Our baseline was wide open for Amare the entire night, whenever he wanted it. The speedy Lopez was beating our guys to spots in the middle of the paint all night.
The WORST play of the night (among many stinkers) was DC2 losing a jump ball to Steve Nash. Don't they practice this stuff?
#6
Niall Doherty
02/02/10 06:51 AM
One thing Tyson Chandler was MUCH better at than Okafor was communicating with his teammates on defense. Okafor and West still get mixed up regularly trying to switch, rotate and recover, and I believe it's mostly because neither of them talk enough back there.
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Julia
02/02/10 08:53 AM
I think Tyson was much more emotional and wore his heart on his sleeve. I kind of miss that.
#8
LSUhornet17
02/02/10 09:25 AM
Amare is going to get his 25, and West will always have trouble with the faster PFs. That's not what killed us. Robin Lopez getting 18pts on wide open dunks and Frye getting 20, mostly on uncontested 3s is what sank the team tonight. This team,especially the bigs, have to get better at rotating after a switch or after someone leaves to help. I know it was Steve Nash, but many of his passes were way too easy.
Also, Julian Wright should never be allowed to touch a ball on a fast break unless he is dunking it at the end of one.
#9
Mikey
02/02/10 11:01 AM
In the midst of his 3rd NBA season, its time for Julian Wright to create an identity for himself. Personally I believe he should focus his effort on defense, and make his name as kind of a Ben Wallace type of player. I know he's not as big as Wallace, but he is the same height if not taller. He also has very good leaping ability, and rebounds the ball pretty well. Offensively he still makes too many mental mistakes to where, if his defense isn't stellar, he's a liability on the floor. It's sad to watch because he has the ability to be a very good player in this league. I'm just not sure he completely understands his role on the club. I'm also not sure to blame Julian or the coaching staff for that. When you get to this level though, there is an "it" factor, and you know the "it" when you see it. Marcus Thornton has "it". Marcus will never be a superstar, but he just has an understanding of the game, his skills, and the desire to get better. I don't know if Julian has "it" though. Problem is, by his 3rd season, we should know this.
#10
Diane
02/02/10 11:36 AM
I consider this game W even thought we got a L. This team has a new identity now and they will take a few game to get it together. I loved the 4th quarter. I laughed out loud when Thornton sunk his 3rd 3 to the total amazement of the Suns announcers. These guys woke up and realized there were two rookies on the floor and they were taking over the game! The announcers did some fast dancing to identify these two and really gave them praise and wondered why the rest of the league didn't know them yet.
I agree with everything Ryan said yesterday about the two.
Welcome Joe thanks for taking the time to help Niall and Ryan.
#11
Section120fan
02/02/10 12:00 PM
Collison shot too much
Thorton dissappears in 2nd & 3rd quarters
Okafor needs the ball in the lane(esp. in 4th quarter)
West is to slow to cover anyone
Peja And Peterson shoud be traded as a package deal for anyone
Thanks Joe for the great report. We will keep on yelling at every game.
#12
cameron is my name!
02/02/10 02:38 PM
Just read this posted by some random guy on ESPN. It's not official at all, but I thought it was interesting. It could be a total lie.
"Rumor from our Suns Insider here in Phoenix after talking to Jeff Bower is that the Suns and Hornets are talking a Mo pete and Posey to PHX for Jason Richardson....."
#13
ticktock6
02/02/10 02:57 PM
Hmm... why would the Suns do that? They feel comfortable just throwing away 14-5 a night?
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420ftJesus
02/02/10 06:45 PM
Sounds crazy. Maybe this is a product of not unloading Amare? Maybe they think a little defense will go a long way. Maybe they need to try to get some vets to go with youngish guys?
Sounds crazy.
#15
Joe Gerrity
02/02/10 06:53 PM
They must not like Richardson too much. Honestly I don't think he's best soultion considering his mammoth contract, but for that price this deal can't be beat. He's certainly an upgrade over Posey and Mo-P and would shore up the back court for a while. Plus he expires after next year.
Sure he's way overpaid for a role player, but so are the guys we are trading for him.
I just can't figure why the suns would do it, unless it's solely to shed a few million is salary to get within shouting distance of the luxury tax line.
#16
nikkoewan
02/02/10 08:18 PM
i think Bower would not agree to that. As stated in the NBA.com link, if your not part of the future, then you're out of here. I think Posey can't be traded that is why he is still with the team. Peterson and Peja on the other hand, are 80% likely to be traded this coming offseason for what I am hoping is TALENT. I hope Bird gets fired(sorry even though I love him as a player), then the incoming GM thinks it is a good time to rebuild so he trades everything for expiring contracts and talent. We then get Granger from Peja, then Peterson is to be traded to Gortat, or some other big man you know that is effective. :D then Songaila can be traded again, Diogu signed. :D
#17
JChangNZ
02/02/10 10:57 PM
Here's an interesting fact:
Sean Marks:
Rank among all NBA players (including non-qualifiers such as him, obviously) in rebounds per 48 minutes. He had been No. 1 for several weeks, prior to his recent return to action. In limited playing time, the New Zealand native’s stats project to 17.9 rebounds per 48 minutes, putting him just behind fifth-place Dwight Howard of Orlando and just ahead of Chicago’s Joakim Noah.
#18
Chung
02/03/10 11:49 AM
Stubhub's got some good ticket deals for OKC. Lower corner, ends for less than $10 a piece and club seats for $20-30. Fill the arena if you can. this is a big game.
#19