I was trying to keep from addressing this until the off-season, but the kid from UCLA just won't let it rest. With every amazing comeback he leads, with every poised fourth quarter, with every explosive foray to the hoop, he's forced the issue. So here's the question:
What do you do when your team's best two players play the same position?
One answer, and the easiest, is to trade one of them this summer. There's only 48 minutes available to a point guard, the Hornets have immediate needs in the front court and at the wing. Both Chris Paul and Darren Collison would demand a major return on the trade market. The Hornets could move Collison with a bigger contract to pad his outgoing salary, and probably get back a good rebounder or multi-faceted wing. They could move Paul and would be certain to get a platter of solid talent and draft picks that could shore up a couple positions.
It does sound enticing. And the grass is always greener, right?
I think it would be a terrible mistake.
The Hornets are currently in the midst of a two-year rebuilding plan. Sure, they haven't said as much, because in the NBA, "rebuilding" is a euphemism for nuking the team and starting over. Regardless, they are trying to rebuild while still staying good enough to keep fan support while they do so. That subtlety may not have served them well, as it has triggered, once more, a set of myths that make it seem imperative for the team to trade Paul, West, or now, Darren Collison. It's a bit like last summer, in fact, when everyone was certain the Hornets would have to trade David West or Chris Paul to get under the tax line. Surprise! Not necessary!
So let's take the time to knock down some of those myths:
Myth 1: The Hornets have no room to breathe under the weight of all their bad contracts
This isn't even close to true. Next season all the contracts that were so difficult to work around this season transform from dead weight into valuable assets. Stojakovic, Peterson, Songaila, and Wright are all expiring. David West is also essentially expiring since the last year of his contract is for a piddling $7.5 million and it's his choice if he comes back at that salary or if he goes for a new contract. That means the Hornets will have between $30 and $38 million worth of tradeable contracts that are inherently valuable in addition to, or in spite of, the owner's talent level.
Myth 2: Paul, West, Thornton and Collison are the only tradeable pieces on the team
Due to the answer to Myth 1, there actually is no reason to trade any of them. In fact, why should the Hornets trade away talent to get more talent, when they can trade old, washed-up veterans for talent? Houston did it this year, sending out McGrady for picks and Kevin Martin. Cleveland sent out Ilgauskas for Jamison, and will even get Ilgauskas back. Dallas did it with Josh Howard for Butler and Haywood. Why can't the Hornets try for Igoudala and Dalembert(or even Brand) for Stojakovic and Peterson? Or make an offer to Golden State to take Biedrin's and maybe Maggette's long term deals. All it takes is two or three franchises deciding to blow it all up(something that happens every year) and the Hornets are primed to capitalize.
Myth 3: Collison and Paul are too small to co-exist together
There may be truth to this on the defensive side of the ball. Still, having seen the offensive impact these two players can have, I really want the Hornets to give their young backcourt more than a month's worth of playing time together to figure out if they can work together. I'd particularly love to see Collison get minutes next to Paul in an Allen Iverson-like shooting guard role. The kid has shown something akin to the explosion and confidence of Iverson - and is probably already a better shooter.
In an ideal world, I'd like to see Bower give Paul 36 minutes, Collison 34, and Thornton 26 at shooting guard with another 8-10 minutes running as a small-ball small forward. It is an unconventional lineup, but one that takes advantage of the hand-checking rules and could create havoc. (The idea of that lineup running in transition makes me quiver with excitement) If their defense, in the end, is so terrible that it overcomes the offensive nightmare this trio can generate, then make the decision on who to move as the last step of the rebuilding process - using the trade to fill in the last few holes.
Myth 4: The Hornets are in financial difficulty and need to cut salary!
I don't really agree with the premise that the Hornets are in as tough a situation as everyone claims. The Hornets have certainly claimed otherwise, and to date, owners that are struggling have been free with complaining about it. Still, even if it is true, Collison(and Thornton) are exactly the type of cheap talent the Hornets need to hold onto. Collison will be under contract for the next three years with a salary that tops out at a measly $2.3 million in 2013. I challenge you to find another young guard not named Marcus Thornton who will tear things up for that kind of salary. (Really. Maybe Ty Lawson?)
Flight of Fancy
All of that said, there is one push I'd love to see the Hornets' front office make that does include trading Collison. Everyone thinks the Hornets cannot be a player in this season's upcoming free agent bonanza, but with Collison's emergence as a no-cost potential star, I think they can. I'd love to see Jeff Bower make a hard sell to Chris Bosh to come and play next to Chris Paul.
Bower could put together an offer of David West(All-Star semi-replacemnt for Bosh/expiring contract), Peterson (expiring contract/returning home to where he was well-loved), and Darren Collison (exciting potential star) to the Raptors in a sign and trade for Bosh. Hell, he could toss in Julian Wright if it helps. Then, if the Hornets move Peja at the trade deadline for a starting small forward who can defend and slash, (like Igoudala) suddenly the Hornets have a scary starting lineup.
Yes, I did just refute everything I said above - but I do think that having the opportunity to get a top 2 or 3 talent at a particular position does override a lot of other considerations. So there!
Your thoughts?


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LSUhornet
03/01/10 03:10 PM
I'll get back to you when I stop drooling over Paul-Thornton-Iggy-Bosh-Okafor starting 5.
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ticktock6
03/01/10 03:11 PM
Ah, we are of one mind. I love it. :-)
I was at a season ticketholder Q&A and asked Jeff Bower how far they were looking ahead with regard to trading expiring contracts for a major player. I didn't expect an answer-- mostly because of what you said about not being able to anticipating who's going to blow it up and who will be available. But he did use a lot of language (not just in responding to that question) about "valuable assets" and "it's a business" and "we're already planning" that reassured me. I think we're poised to be a big player before or at the trade deadline next year and I expect us to try to do it while hanging onto young cheap talent.
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Zwie
03/01/10 03:22 PM
"What do you do when your team's best two players play the same position?"
so West is now our 3rd best player????
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mW
03/01/10 04:25 PM
I say keep Collison, too. I don't want to be anyone's farm club. We need to keep and attract talent, not trade it away. Nonetheless, nothing wrong with GMs keeping their ears open.
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TopherPrice
03/01/10 04:28 PM
@Zwie: "So West is now our 3rd best player???" : I would say yes, IF DC keeps up this kind of production while CP3 is out. If you run the numbers on him when playing 29+ minutes in a game, his numbers would make him a top 5-8 PG in the league. So yes, I would say that makes him better than West for his production at his position.
A little side note: David would be a GREAT 6th man. Instant offense, great in clutch time, can bring the defense occasionally...
But this is a silly argument, so I won't really argue with anyone who thinks D West belongs right behind CP3. The above is just my reasoning why I could not really argue with anyone for saying DC belongs ahead of David in the ranking of Hornets.
@Ryan: I agree wholeheartedly to the entire post. Including the trade idea with Toronto, except I think we need to include JuJu and ask for Jarred Jacks in the trade. I had been wishing there was a way we could make a move for Bosh, but it seemed all but a dead concept. I don't know how much the Raps would move on a trade like this though. They don't strike me as a team looking for a non big name PG, which this essentially would be.
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Blattman
03/01/10 05:13 PM
Hornets don't need trade. They just need luck and time.
Why luck ? Because of Xavier Henry's case.
This player is so underrated: an unselfish 6-7 freshman, who can play at both 2 and 3, with great range, good D, play for a great program.
His weaknesses ? not a great ball handler and not being so comfortable to shot after dribble. But do you need theese skills when you have the best PG in the game ?
Oh and he's only 18.
You know what ? he's still projected as a late lottery pick or in the 15th pick neighbourhood, so hornets can draft him.
The best moove for the hornets this summer ? Appeal Xavier Henry in Nola.
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BeesGivingEffort
03/01/10 06:07 PM
Xavier Henry sounds like a JuJu that wasn't broken by Byron Scott yet.
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Blattman
03/01/10 06:27 PM
Henry is so much better than Juju was !
He is a more natural wing player, when Juju played more PF in college. Henry scoring relies heavily on 3points shooting.
Hum last thing ? As a freshman he averages more points than Juju as sophomore.
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downtowndave78
03/01/10 07:07 PM
I totally agree with you analysis Ryan, but the only question I have regarding Collison is if he will ever adjust to the role of coming off the bench and produce the way that he does as a starter when he is CP3's backup. It seems like forever since Paul went down, but if I remember correctly, Collison seems to play better ball as a starter. Maybe his shot has gotten better, he has grown more accustomed to the NBA, or maybe my memory isn't serving me well, but if Collison can play at this level while backing up CP our lineup would be phenomenal- or at least extremely entertaining. NO TRADE and gratz on the Western Player Rookie of the Month...he deserves it!
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nikkoewan
03/01/10 10:13 PM
just an example, portland is not trading Rudy right now because they already have Roy, or trading Bayless because they already have Roy( or Blake or Miller). Or trading Pyzbilla because they have Oden, or trading Webster because they have Batum( and before that Outlaw). It's the first time in years that we had a more than capable backup. Pargo was nice, but he was a JUST a backup in my opinion, same with Bobby and Speedy. But Collison is different, we've all seen it. Imagine having that many energy expelled in 20 minutes of play?! :D i'd be drooling over. I also agree with the fact that we are in prime position this off season( especially with all the expirings we have). Just wait, NOLA. Just wait!
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YoungFella
03/02/10 10:37 AM
"Paul, West, Thornton and Collison are the only tradeable players on the team"
When 2 of your 3 best players play the same position (and everybody else on your roster sucks) it's common sense to move one.
It would be smarter to move Paul since:
A) He costs more
B) He's injury prone and one more big injury will start to hurt his trade value
C) He's got at least a 50/50 chance of opting out anyway
D) He would net us a huge return in the form of at least 2 starters and probably picks as well
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YoungFella
03/02/10 10:40 AM
"I say keep Collison, too. I don't want to be anyone's farm club. We need to keep and attract talent, not trade it away. Nonetheless, nothing wrong with GMs keeping their ears open."
Mw I agree with this if we had a solid roster. But we have one of the worst rosters in the Association that needs a drastic overhaul. Everybody says that the Hornets won't be able to sell tickets if we traded Paul... Let me tell you - the Hornets won't sell tickets next season even with Paul. The season renewal rate will be among the worst in the NBA. A ton of optimistic New Orleans sports fans renewed last season because the deadline came during the middle of the Hornets' last successful run and before the playoff quit debacle (and before this season).
Our season ticket base is going to drop to below 7,000 full next year (maybe worse) so this is the offseason to make a major move since we're going to have to win back the casual fan anyhow.
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Gerry V
03/02/10 11:37 AM
Very nice article. Darren is a steal with that contract. Quality depth at the guard position is crucial in the NBA..remember..Daniels...James....Jackson? Hornets siffered with a drop off in performance with no quality backups.....Ya like Rudy Gay ? Well do ya ?
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YoungFella
03/02/10 01:09 PM
We can't realistically keep a top 15 young point guard (and the 3rd best player on our roster) on the bench for 35 minutes a night. Young PG's need playing time to fully develop.
When CP3 comes back there is no way that DC will get more than 12 minutes a game at PG - which isn't close to enough.
Sure you can go small and mix CP and DC up at 1/2 for a while but that's not a realistic lineup - especially when we're so small at the 3 4 and 5 spots.
It's just common sense - one of our stud PG's will have to go to help us shed bad contracts and further bolster our weak starting 5.
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BlueDrops
03/03/10 12:34 AM
When your 2 best players are playing the same position this is a bad thing....but ESPECIALLY when its point guard. The hornets have a lot of problems. Bad contracts and a team that is no where close to competing for the championship. If paul comes back, watch DC production in games be very limited.
Since Paul's absence collison/west/thorton are the only things on the hornets that look decent. Those guys are no where near top caliber but two of those players are rookies on extremely cheap contracts. It raises the question of WTF is going on with the rest of the team/roster. Everyone else on that team is basically not doing their job and many of them are overpaid. Plug these holes.
DC has 100% proven that he is a starting pg in the nba at the very least. Keeping him behind a healthy paul will only deflate his trade value. I would love for the hornets to have DC as the starting pg but god created CP who is a future HOF. Please hornets fan don't buy into this trading DC is terrible attitude. By all means keep paul (build team around him ALWAYS), but trade collison for the best possible deal.
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YoungFella
03/03/10 03:53 AM
BlueDrops,
You're right on the money. I've gotten bashed on here for advocating the trading of CP3. I can totally be convinced to go the opposite route and trade the DC Sniper instead.
My only fear is that Chris Paul opts out. He EXPLICITLY SAID when he signed his extension that he signed the shorter deal because he wanted Shinn and the Front Office to be held accountable for keeping this franchise competitive.
No honest person could give Shinn/Bower/Uncle Hugh anything higher than a C- for the job they've done so far. Do you think a C- is really good enough to satisfy somebody as hyper-competitive as Chris Paul?
WE HAVE THREE FREAKING SCOUTS!!! We have a front office that has been described by a prominent and respected national columnist as "a pathetic, homespun, bacterial stew of nepotism and finger-pointing".
If CP3 bolts and we don't get value for him we're done. We might never recover.
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cheif youngblood
03/03/10 10:26 PM
I would think if we could trade collison and some extra baggage like peterson or juju we need to focus less on another big man (we could still use a solid back up) but as C/PF combos go , were on the outskirts of the top tier. the biggest whole in hornets for a number of season is lack of an explosive wing player who can defend the leagues premier talent . we got peja on guys like lebron and melo for christ sake . iggy would be great in this capacity.
with that said , it is very hard to let collison go now isn't it
#17
Kyle
04/15/10 12:39 PM
"I'll get back to you when I stop drooling over Paul-Thornton-Iggy-Bosh-Okafor starting 5."
The thought of that literally gave me goosebumps...
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